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They wanted them out of Iraq.

Did they? Why?

Success in Iraq would equal success in the war on terror. Al Qaeda
understands that a fledgling democracy in Iraq is their worst
nightmare, and they'll do anything to prevent it.

Why do you say this?

Democracy in Iraq is likely to lead to greater influence by the Moslem
leaders. Surely, this is a step forward for Al Qaeda?



However, you insinuated that Al Qaeda had made demands!!!

They demanded that other countrys not support the ousting of Saddam.

Doesn't that make you suspicious? Osama was dedicated to the
overthrow of
Saddam.

No. Because of the obvious nexus between Saddam Hussein and al Qaeda.

There was *no* bond between Al Qaeda and Saddam. Al Qaeda want Islamic
government. Saddam was a *secular* leader (in a largely Islamic country).
Al Qaeda was dedicated to the overthrow of Saddam. When the US establish a
democratic regime in Iraq, the Shi'ites will end up with a decent
representation in the executive.


A top secret U.S. government memorandum, dated October 27, 2003, was
obtained and it put to rest any argument about the connection. The
memo laid out exhaustive Iraq-al Qaeda contacts between 1990 and March
of 2003. Case in point:''Ahmed Hikmat Shakir, the Iraqi facilitator
whisked not one but two September 11 hijackers-Khalid al Midhar and
Nawaq al Hamzi-through the passport and customs process upon their
arrival in Kuala Lumpur [Malaysia] on January 5, 2000. Shakir then
traveled with the hijackers to the Kuala Lumpur Hotel where they met
with Ramzi bin al Shibh, one of the masterminds of the September 11
plot.'' There is little doubt that Saddam Hussein was the Svengali of
the Middle East.

Can't you try to apply your own intelligence to the propoganda that you are
fed?





Saddam and Osama were mortal enemies. You didn't know that, eh?


Both birds of the same feathers.

No. Mortal enemies.



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They believe that the Moslems will win. They *WANT* war.


I'm sorry to say it Donal but lets give it to them.

That's a seperate arguement. You might be right. However, if you are going
to back that approach, then you are going to have to wipe out all Moslems.
You need to stop pussyfooting about.



The fact remains that radical Muslim terrorists have been at war with
the West for many years but only recently has the ''coalition of the
willing'' begun to fight back.

Iraq had nothing to do with Muslim terrorists. Do some research.


These are enemies who laugh at the
fools extending olive branches. Appeasement is tantamount to
government-assisted suicide. They hit soft targets, including
children, to weaken our resolve. Defining the war on terror requires
understanding the premise that these implacable foes do not hate us
for what we do--they hate us for who we are.

Some do. Many more will hate you (and us) for what you *do*. That is
why I object to the war in Iraq.








Therefore, he would not want any Western country to pull out of
action
in
the Middle East.

Wrong.

Why?

As another sign of appeasement. Ossama love that stuff. He claimed he
drove the US out of Somolia, "Black Hawk down"

Try to remember that bin Laden *wants* war. Do you?













I also heard that since the elections they have ordered all
terrorist
to stop
because the Spainards plan to cut and run from Iraq.

You are incorrect.


Bull****, AlQueida has halted all operation in Spain until futher
notice. They are waiting for them to withdraw from Iraq.

Pah! Back this up.


I can not find were I heard it. But it is simple logic. Terrorist won
the election in Spain and are getting what they killed for.


You really don't understand what happened in Spain.

The government backed the US position against the wishes of 92% of the
population.

Think about it. 92% of Spaniards did NOT think that Saddam had WMD. They
were right. Now, because their government was hoodwinked - they are
victims of Al Qaeda.










And they renig on the
deal to finish the job in Iraq, then all good American should
boycott
all Spanish products.

Good idea. I'm sure that all Spaniards will recognise the
strength
of
American gratitude for the 217 lives that they lost in support
of
your
country.

First off they were fighting for all free countrys that value
freedom
and hate dictaters with a history of torturing citizens.

No.

They were fighting because their Prime Minister was blackmailed by
Bush.


Yeah right, Bush had pictures of him having an affair, thats how he
blackmailed him huh?

No, economic blackmail.


You call it blackmail, I call it common sence. Do you buy products
from people that will not support you? I do not. I know were to hit
them were it hurts.









If Spain decides to pull out before the job is complete then the
Spainards will be dis-honoring the one that gave all to the
liberation
of th Iraqi people.

The Spainards are acting like John Kerry acted during the
Vietnam
war. These actions will hurt the men and women in harms way. Lets
give
all the troops all the support they need to finish the job
correctly.
Let's not give in because some dirty rats attack citizens on the
way
to work again.


BTW, Capt. American, I'd like to ask you a question. When
Colin
Powell
showed a satellite photograph of two trucks, did you see two
trucks,
... or
did you see WMD?

I saw the mobile chemical labs.

I saw two trucks.

We now know that they were *NOT* connected with WMD. They were
supplied
by
the British. They were used to inflate baloons that were used for
artillery
practice.


You would then think the British company would of came forward and
said
Hey those are our trucks.

emmmm .... they did! I suspect that Fox didn't report it?????





Who cares.

You don't. However, those trucks were used by your government to
justify
the war.


1000's of things justify the war on terror.

Name 5.


Regards


Donal
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