jeffies, it is near impossible to discuss things with you, for you are so
ignorant you make mke errors 85* out of kilter and you have no capability to
understand just why you are wrong.

you are not even intelligent even to be considered a sophist. you are just
stupid.

so, leave your fuel at home, leave your EPIRB at home (it would be unethical of
you to own one, let alone take one with you on a boat, for merely having one
onboard means you might endanger the life of a young coastie trying to save
your sorry butt) AND GO TO SEA!! Let Darwin sort it out.

Time for the meds again, jaxie, reality is slipping away pretty fast!

Just to test you theory that I scoured the 'net in search of an engine that
didn't match your claim, I checked the Westerbeke site for the other diesel
I've
used, the 30B. At WOT it gets 17 hp/gal/hour, however, if you back off to
3000
rpm it goes up to 24 hp/gal/hour, and at 2500 rpm it goes up to 30
gal/hp/hour.
Even if you just look at propeller output instead of engine output, the
number
is well over the value of 16 you claimed.

As for my "mileage," this discussion started from various claims of actual
fuel
usage that you dismissed as silly. I think everyone here is smart enough to
compute their own fuel consumption - you're the only one silly enough to
claim
that the spec sheets say everything.



"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
jeffies, I also showed a lying sack of squat engine dealer bragging about
his
16 hp/gal engine, and another engine dealer bragging about 19 hp/Imp gal.

you wanna play el stew pee doh and go on believing that diesels get 30 or
40
or
50 hp per gallon of fuel (if you run the engine slow enough) go right
ahead.
Kindly please do NOT bring an EPIRB along with you when you set off. That
would be unethical on your part. You would be endangering some young
coastie
sent out to save your sorry stupid butt.

but, you really do have waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much fuel onboard.
you
know that. leave half of it to home.

No need to Google, You said "go to the specs", so just went to the specs
from
the dominant supplier of diesels for recreational sailboats, and looked
for
the
engine closest in size to what Donal might have. Actually, I was looking
for
the specs for my engines, but there weren't there. I even admitted there
was
room for interpretation in the numbers, but you were too dense to notice
that.

You're the one who said "specific fuel consumption figures for brand new
engines
operating under laboratory conditions is about 16 hp for each gallon
burned
per
hour." You then backed this up with an engine that had a SFC of 21
hp/gallons/hour. You picked the engine, not me. You picked the web site,
not
me.

Now you're just claiming the specs all lie. You're a real piece of work,
jaxie.




"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
jeffies, the trouble in trying to discuss things with you is that you
start
absolutely ignorant, google the hell out of the subject for a couple
days,
getting important details 85* out of kilter, eventually start to feel
stupid
then blame me for your feelings.

Do keep in mind that *you* claimed early on the 30 hp per gallon was
normal,
and even right at the end you had to google through site after site to
find
a
manufacturer with a rep for exagerating to pick a tiny difference from
my
ordinary starting statement.















The funny thing is that there really is an upper limit to how much
energy
can
be
taken out of a gallon of fuel, and his number of 16 is a reasonable
number
for
an engine run at WOT. But to claim it as an absolute is ridiculous,
since
most
engines at reduced throttle do better, and some do much better.
Further,
claiming that cruisers always run at the full rated hp is absurd.

Its so typical of jaxie to take a simple "rule of thumb" and claim that
its
an
absolute that can never be violated.


"DSK" wrote in message
...
JAXAshby wrote:

modern, water-cooled, 4-cycle, brand spanking new diesel engines in
laboratory
conditions use about 1 gallon of fuel for each 16 hp produced.

Well, in this corner, all by himself, we have JAXAshby repeating "16
hp
per gph, 16 16 16" and then we have the rest of the world providing
more
detailed and sensible explanations for a variety of differing
figures.

Jax is right, of course... the whole rest of the world is wrong. We
all
know that and agree, don't we? Of course we do, there there don't
worry...

I'm not sure why Jax enjoys being center man in this perpetual game
of
kick-the-clown.

DSK