you are right, over the knee. 18th century technology is still superior to
20th century technology, let alone that scummy 21st century technology.

btw, where did you say you found a course in celestial nav that included lunars
distances as well??

otn, you just explained why celestial navigation is worthless. you also
explained why celestial navigation as the term is used does not include
Lunar
Distances.

btw, Lunar Distances were in common use on most ships until about the
middle of
the 19th century, not the beginning.

Oops .... got my centuries wrong.(meant to say not living prior to the
20th century) Actually, Lunar distances were used to some degree,
through the 19th century, but the need for them became academic, once
the chronometer was readily available.
As for celestial being worthless, I will admit, to someone such as
yourself, who has never learned to use it and/or become proficient in
it's use, it is useless, coupled with the fact, that as "galley boy",
you'd never have the need.
It is, however, included in "celestial navigation", since, once again,
it involves sights of celestial bodies (or are you also unaware of the
methods used to obtain the basic information used in lunar distances?).

Go back to googling, Jax .... as always,the response to your responses
quickly become exercises in talking to a brain dead Cocker Spaniel (My
apologies to the Cocker Spaniel owners out there).

otn