Michael wrote:

What you are talking about is "Guns and Butter" which resulted in LBJ's
contrived War in VietNam, LBJ's failed social programs, LBJ's huge national
debt increase, LBJ being run out of office and worse getting us stuck with
Tricky Dick, D Digit Carter et. al. that followed LBJ still has a lot to
answer for but being successful is not one of the questions. JFK where
were you when we really needed you!

Whoa, dude... you are seriously uninformed.

"Guns *or* Butter" is a catch phrase referring to a basic principle of
economics and finance. The basic principle is that a given unit of money
(dollars, euros, yen, whatever) can only be spent once. The phrase "Guns or
butter" refers to a particular gov't or administrations orientation... spend
the money on military/defense porkbarreling, or social programs. LBJ was
challenged on this and said "We can have guns and butter" but that was long
after the Viet Nam war was way out of control.

About LBJ's "failed" social programs.... wow I guess if you think that the New
Deal was a failure then why not say that the civil rights movement and school
integration was also a failure. It is a way of admitting that you have a dim &
twisted view of happenings in the real world.

And Lonny.... get a clue... which Republicans had very much push behind the
civil rights movement? I want names and specific acts & dates.

This wholesale rewriting of history would be amusing if it didn't reveal such
abysmal ignorance and mean-spiritedness. Oh, and BTW... history is written (and
re-written) by the winners. That means... not you!

DSK