Jonathan,
You are obviously not a student of the period. You would know the
incident referred to is true (if the Hanoi press and our flyers are to
be believed). She had long been vocal, but the prisoners did not know
it as they were denied rights afforded the Geneva Conventions. So when
they were paraded in front of her and responded that they were well
treated and much regretted the actions of the country (this of course
had nothing to do with the man standing behind them with a cattle prod -
the prod is visible in one of Jane's publicity pictures). They had
secreted a slip of paper with the SSN of all the captives so the
families could be informed. It was passed to HJ during a handshake. It
was hoped she would take it back to the Red Cross or any other agency.
Instead - As soon as she was through with the photo-op, she handed the
slip to th lead guard. The beatings that followed were merciless.
You can forget what ever you want to.
Matt Colie

Jonathan Ganz wrote:
Yes it is an appropriate answer. I had several friends who died in VN.
So what. They're dead, I think of them often, she stood up for what she
believed in. I didn't agree with it at the time, but that's life, and that's
what makes this an free and open society. I'm certain that LBJ and
his generals had a lot more to do with death and destruction than Jane
and Tom.

Just because someone named spiker posts a message, doesn't mean
I have to be believe him or be sympathetic to what he posts.

"Dave" wrote in message
...

That has to qualify as the most callous posting to the group in some time.

Though I served during wartime I wasn't in a war zone and never had the
experience of watching compatriots killed by enemy action. But I had an
uncle in WWII who did, and who suffered recurring nightmares about it his
entire life. Regardless of one's political views, his heart must go out to
those who have lived through such an experience. "Get over it" isn't an
answer.


On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 08:17:42 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
said:


The war is over. Get over it.

"Spiker" wrote in message
...

A fox she was, we thought she was an American and our friend.
That got two of us killed and two others "disappeared" when we hoped

she

would tell our families that we were alive.

Three wives and four children were directly effected by Hanoi Jane's
collaboration.

Years just don't soften some things.

Dave
S/V Good Fortune
CS27