It's really not an issue when under sail... you may have a bit more work
taking up the slack in the sheet in some configurations. I've never had a
problem when sailing cutter. Some folks opt to furl and unfurl rather than
draw the sheet over.

CM

"Grouch" wrote in message
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| I confused the staysail with the genoa. I agree there are no self
| tacking outer foresail. It wouldn't be feasable.
|
| But look at this pic from Island Packet Yachts website of one of their
| 380s (Man those 380, 420, and 485 are NICE!) under sail with two
| foresails. I just don't see being able to tack the outer masthead
| forsail with the self-tending staysail in the way.
|
| www.ipy.com/Graphics/IP380.gif
|
| I also remember reading about Beth Leonard using a dual foresail
| configuration on "Hawk", her earlier vessel. I don't believe she used a
| self tending inner sail, but it would still be in the way when coming
| about. She wrote that in some seas and air that she'd use only the 2
| foresails to create a comfortable ride.
|
| I just want to know the proceedure for coming about with both foresails
| on. I do see how nice it would be to have the self-tending sail when
| beating in a tight channel, though!!!
|
| Capt. Mooron wrote:
| The "staysail is the "inner" sail..... There are no self tacking genoas
that
| I know of. You don't run or unfurl the gen when using a "self-tending"
| staysail.
|
| CM
|
| "Grouch" wrote in message
| ...
| | When running the self-tending jib with the large staysail, how does
one
| | tack the staysail? I'm sure I've seen them run at the same time, I
just
| | cant figure out how they tack the staysail without rolling it up each
| | time to get it on the other side of the jib.
| |
| | Just wondering?
| |
| | I think the Island Packets (larger ones) all come with the Hoyt
| | self-tending jib/ staysail setup.
| |
| | -Grouchee
| |
| | Thom Stewart wrote:
| | OK Bart,
| |
| | I'll take a crack at the Self-tending jibs.
| | I do believe (I could be wrong) these jibs were used to reduce the
size
| | of the Catboats sail.
| |
| | The work boats, before the use of the gasoline engines, were single
sail
| | vessels for ease of handling when used by water-men working by
| | themselves. An example would be the New England Catboat. As they got
up
| | in size, the sail size became a problem. This was in the days of
Gaff
| | Rigs.( the Marconni Rig didn't appear until after the advent of the
| | trans-Atlantic Radio antennas) The single sail's weakness grew. Two
| | heavy booms, weather helm/ with barn door rubber, increased beams to
| | maintain heeling and shallow draft.
| |
| | These were the problems the were solved by the Jib ( The Friendship
| | Sloop) It allowed and increase in sail area without increasing the
| | main. Also, eased the pressure on the weather helm ( Rudder size)
| |
| | As a working boat the extra lines for the jib weren't a welcome
addition
| | to the Lobsterman, so the self-tending jib solved that problem. If
the
| | mast was cantered back a little the boat would still turn into the
wind
| | and wait as the traps were tended with hands off the helm.
| |
| | This made a handy rig and was adopted by the day sailer design. That
is
| | where, today you are likely to find the rig. In the knock abouts day
| | sailors.
| |
| | Advantage; Increased sail area, less pressure aloft, Only one line
to
| | trim and tack, Reduced beam, smaller rudders, Less crowded cockpits
| |
| | Disadvantage; Size limit on jib (100%) A complicated foredeck
| |
| | Ole Thom
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