"Donal" wrote in message
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Please post *one* instance of where I fed your uninformed assumptions!
I never fed your assumptions! I simply stated that you were wrong.
Also,
I told you that I would prove that you were wrong. You called me a
faker,
and I have proved you completely wrong. You said that you would eat
humble
pie if you were proved wrong.


I asked you if you were a YM did I not? You are not!

14/01/2004 @ 13:10 - "I've described the test several times."
How can describe what you have never performed?

14/01/2004 @ 18:34 - "As I pointed out earlier, it is 13 years since I did
this stuff."
But you never have in a practical environment! and teh question was a
practical one.

14/01/04 @ 13:10 - Donal - "As far as I remember..."
IMO still implies you have done the 'remebered' thing?


It implies absolutely nothing more than it says.


You can remeber what you have never done. Dammed good going that man. Wish I
could, I could then remeber my night of passion with Felicity Kendal, Eather
Kit and ZaZa Gabour. Mmmmmmmm


as opposed
to 'I have been told/heard' which would clearly indicate that you have
not.

I wasn't trying to be helpful. As I have already stated, I have been
very
clear - over a number of years - that I am a novice.


Irrelevant to one who is not familiar with your previous posts, I am only
concerned with your responses within this thread.

You have offered to supply details you can not be possesion of, to wit,
a
YACHTMASTER CERTIFICATE NUMBMER, sounds like a liar to me, with all this
who-ha you are certainly not a faker, just a full of BS and a troll to
boot
(a good one at that).

Now, I *will* call you a liar. Let me make this absolutely clear. You
are
a liar.

I did **not** offer to supply you with "details" of my Yachtmaster
Certificate. I offered to "answer all of your questions".


Reading the thread carefully you are correct. I have indeed be culpable in
assuming you meant to knock me down with a sudden display of valid
documentation. Liar no, stupid yes.


you have concistanty avoided this route. Fine by me, you have only
prompted
me to feel stronger than ever that you do not hold the qualification
you
claim to.

I have **never** claimed to have the Yachmaster Practical.

So why comment on the practical without clarification of you lack of
expereince? If not to troll.

Very simple. Everybody knows that I haven't done the practical. I've
said
it many times.

Not everyone or I would have no reason to kick off on you as I would be
already informed.

If Joe and Jeff (who knows that I've only done the shorebased), want to
assume that I've done the practical, then that really is their problem.


Yes. Same for anyone else. Not to answer a clear call to clarify the
situation can and has been in htuis case, by me, construed as feeding
assumption.


Quite the opposite. I have often pointed out that I only took the
Shorebased exam.
Joe, and Jeff should both be aware of this. Therefore, I felt no
obligation to correct them at all.


Just by telling me you can produce the requested number in 6-7 days you
have
implied that not only have to taken the exam but alos passed. Trolling.
Now
you are stating that you have not taken the exam? Why not just say so?
Why
imply you have these details? You don't get one of those for a theory
pass,
just the completion certificate.

I did *not* say that I would produce the "number", did I?


No you did not.

I said that I would answer your questions. Didn't I?


Yes.

Once again, you are a **LIAR**.


No. Only guilty of false assumptions, helping to create trolls and then
biting on and responding to them.


snip - referend to loads of old stuff that I had not read - not
releted
to
this thread

I have only been hanging around the last couple of weeks, again I would
ask
you, why not just answer NO when I asked if you were a YACHTMASTER? No
shame
in it, a few years ago I was not one either, but the fact is, I am now.

Well done!


Thankyou. I worked hard for it.

Do you feel that it gives you the right to call complete strangers liars?


Not at all. I take that right just by breathing if I feel the individual
concerned deserves it and is making loud noises in a public place. As indeed
I feel you do. On occasion through this discourse you have call me a liar. I
did in fact go from CC to YMOff practical (blue book) between Feb'93 and Nov
'93. So you gonna say sorry to me? After all I too am a complete stranger.
Tell you what, don't bother, I can deal with scepticism and rejection.



Your first post to me contained these words:-
"Go on, be brave, face me down on this one. I will eat humble pie if
needed
but IMO you are a faker!"

Now, I think that it is time to use your cutlery!!


On what grounds? I asked if you a YACHTMASTER and by your own admission
above you are not, a theory pass does not a YACHTMASTER make, as you
should
know if you have the shorebased theory pass?

I have never claimed that I have the Yachtmaster Practical. Far from it.
I have claimed that I am a *novice* sailor. How dare you attack my
honesty?

Note my responce to your comments above, mortaly wounded horror, 'How dare
YOU'. Tehe!!! You have done all of the above to me but hey, life is a bitch
and it is your choice. Deal with it, I have.

What kind of sick, twisted, individual are you?

No less sick or twisted than you. You baited, I bit. Tough! More fool me,
poor sad you.

Are you sooo pleased with
your Practial certificate that you feel qualified to sneer at those of us
who only took the theory course?


Not at all. You have permitted me to build my uninformed assumptitions, in
part fed them. If you wind people up, you must be prepared for the fall out.
You strike me as the boy in the playground taht winds up a fight and then
calls for the teacher.


Takes more than a classroom
docket to be a YACHTMASTER. I think far from me eating humble pie, no
way.

You said that you would eat humble pie if I proved you wrong. It seems
that
you lied!


What have you proved me wrong over aside from being a faker (and that is
even still debatable)? I believe I said IMO you we not yachtmaster, and I am
right.


It is time you came clean and started being honest about yourself, drop
the
inference and deceptive stuff. Nothing wrong with being a novice of at
least
14 years standing, reading through some othere posts you obviously have
information to impart, just stick to what you know to be so.

You really are stupid beyond belief! Don't you understand? I want an
apology.


Only if you apologise to me for branding my claims over the rate at which I
collected my qual's. Else I'll tell mummy and she won't like it!

I've been posting in ASA for about 5 years. You have called my integrity
into question.


As indeed you have mine... dah de dah de dah de dah and on and on and
on..... Mindless tedium, wounded looks......
I am just another person in a public forum reading what I concider to be
disinformation and questioning the source. No thing more or less, who the
are you? This is not your forum, if that is how you see it then I would
suggest you start you own and offer subscription only ids and passwords. As
I have said time and again, a public place.

I'm really quite unhappy about that.


More mindless tedium, wounded looks......
Tough. I to have been slightly offended (mainly smiling though) by you
calling me a liar over my sail record vis-ve training. Sob sob! You do not
know me or my record and yet you have felt informed enought to off my traing
as lies. Ah! over these exchanges you to have called me a liar prior to this
little tyrade. Has is had me crawling around the floor in to shock and
horror? No. You are entiled to your opinions for me as I am of you. If the
fact someone does not rate you or your methods or your verbal rot, be it
sailing or the use of usernet as a trolling device or what ever, well grow
up and smell the roses. Life can be a bitch and not everyone will value your
emotions and opinions as highly as you do. As indeed they have no reason to
value mine.


Regards


Donal
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Lets just face it Donal, you and I are not going to be lovers. We have
engaged in a game of brinkmanship and for various reasons neither of us can
win outright. I posted a question that offened you for whatever reason and
you set me up for a fall. Well done, you did a good job and I bit and I
applaud your efforts. However, my primary question boiled down to 'are you a
YM', and your answer is NO, so no humble pie for me to eat, but I have to
add nor are you truly a faker as you have rightly pointed out my query was
based on a false assumption I had made, which you permitted to exisist
longer than needed to gratify your need to feel good about something and get
one over, cool, I can (as is my right) assume this is a chip due to the lack
of the full YM coming through! (true or not does not matter) The way you get
so offended by being questioned is sad though, you will gladly call another
a LIAR and then get all tearful if you are on the recieving end, I feel I
have to advise you to get a life and stop throwing stones unless you can
deal with the a little broken glass of your own.

JohnE