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comments interspersed:
Rick wrote:
otnmbrd wrote:
Do you think that taking a kayak across a TSS in fog, is an act of
good seamanship?
It all depends on the distance, volume of traffic, visibility, and local
knowledge combined with communications available.
I believe we've been discussing "fog", no visibility. The kayaker may
have a hand held radio, but it's range will be highly limited, so his
immediate knowledge of traffic density may also be, coupled with the
fact that he'll have little if any ability to determine CPA's or best
maneuvers, and as we all agree, will be a poor radar as well as visual
target..... so, although you're above factors are part of the mix to
determine "good seamanship", I could/would probably argue their status
of importance, overall.
If I were halfway across Puget Sound or Jaun de Fuca, between the lanes
and got caught in fog good seamanship would be required to get back to
shore, wouldn't it.
Good seamanship might involve sitting still in the separation zone and
waiting for clearing or the possible assistance of another vessel,
either with radar or a visual fix, to guide you safely across and clear
of the TSS.
Leaving Port Angeles for Victoria in a zero vis fog would not be the act
of a prudent mariner.
G Especially since there be a couple of good bars and hotels there, to
wait things out.
Do you think taking a kayak across a TSS in fog is a responsible
maneuver?
See above.
See Above
Do you think taking a kayak across a TSS in fog shows that you have
observed all precautions required by the circumstances of the fog?
See above. A good ear, a pair of eyes, a handheld radio and a flashlight
might do the job nicely. Most seakayakers carry much much more in this
part of the world.
In fog, I can't see any of the above as being all that good .... ears,
lie in fog .... eyes, can't always see far enough .... a hand held
radio, may be of some assistance ... a flashlight, limited in usefulness
in fog (especially if you expect some ship to be able to see it)..... a
portable GPS, useful, but......
Do you think taking a kayak across a TSS in fog shows a due regard to
all dangers of navigation and collision?
Due regard? All that means is being aware both situationally and
"environmentally" and being prepared for any reasonable but unplanned
circumstance that might arise. The same regard as any prudent marine
would take before leaving the dock.
Rick
I disagree. I think it means that due regard to the dangers of crossing
the TSS may mean it's not a good idea and should be avoided in a kayak,
in fog, AND I think rule 2 is saying that.
In clear visibility, the kayaker may cross, as long as it doesn't
impede, but in fog, it's ability to proceed safely in a known area of
high traffic density, will be limited and require a departure from that
rule.
I am not questioning the "right" of the kayaker to cross a TSS, just the
prudence of doing so in a fog and whether the rules may in fact
say/imply/etc., that they shouldn't.
otn
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