(Roy G. Biv) wrote in message . com...
Donal wrote:
Common sense tells me that doing 25 kts in fog is stupid.


http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/group...504230-07.hcsp

Good example of a major ****-up. If Donal paid attention he would of
read that I never pass or overtake at full speed. And I always do
everything I can to talk to the other vessel and make passing
agreements. Even after talking I will creep pass the other vessel
before getting back up on plane. These idiots assumed to much and paid
for it. I always treat the other vesseel in fog like Donal is at the
wheel and expect them to do something stupid.


http://www.shipownersclub.com/losspr...asia/39495.htm

Another great example of a **** up. Both had radars set at .75 miles
moving at 30 knots. If donal read my post he would see that I set my
radars at 1.5 miles and have well over 2 minutes to stop if I meet
another crewboat doing 20 knots.
And I have time to talk and AGREE on what whistle we are going to
pass.

Dont know if you remember Donal but I told a story here once about
being on a 120 foot fully loaded crew boat named the Destiny doing
over 20 knots that had a head on collision with another 110 foot
crewboat named the Dare doing 20 knots empty. I was the relief skipper
and in the bunk expecting to wake up and off load cargo at the rig and
bring the boat back in. The show off asshole capt that was taking the
boat out made a one whistle passing agreement with the inbound boat.
My wife who was a deckhand at the time was seriously injured. Over 400
thousand dollars damage done to both boats. All because the asshole
was trying to show off and roar pass another boat as it roared in. She
said the last thing she saw before impact was a green light. I have
seen first hand what can go wrong. But I also know it can be done
safely. It's a serious business not for the meek, or the showoff.

Joe
MSV RedCloud







Its Joes license at stake, the acceptable risk is his to bear.

We have similar issues in the keys running tourists to the reef: if
the weather is borderline and we cancel we lose revenue to competion
who will accept the risk.

IF We don't run , we lose needed revenue to competition. Its the
captians responsibility to assess weather for Each and Every trip. I
have run plenty of trips where conditions were fine for sailing but
not snorkelling and I have been quite clear to all passengers about
the conditions and once I explain expected conditions its common for
some to drop out, I would rather lose them upfront than have them go
and not have a good time because it was too rough. People actually
show up at the dock with winds @25knots expecting to go snorkelling in
conditions reflected by postcard photographs....
I remember explaining to one family about the rough conditions over
the phone, THEY WANTED TO GO. THEY DIDN'T CARE. When they showed up
at the dock they hadn't mentioned their small kids or the pregnant
wife in her 8&1/2 month. I thought these people were absolutely nuts
and they were quite upset when I cancelled.