Ayn Rand, Barry Goldwater, Ralph Nader, H. Perot,
etc. etc. - all the same. All talk a good game but none
do anything but talk and hope to persuade others to
do the work and make the sacrifice. The only true
leader leads by example.

President Bush leads by example.

That's it in a nutshell. That's what people want.
People don't want some pie-in-the-sky pipe dream
of fanatics who don't even live their own lives
the way they preach others should.

How can you explain this?

S.Simon




"Uncle Albert" wrote in message ink.net...
I do rely on government for the things it should provide - courts, a common
defense, police and all the other things necessary to protect my individual
rights. The US Constitution does a pretty good job of laying it all out.

What you desire and what GW Bush does is violate the Constitution, the law
of the land. What good is worrying about the Colregs when the fundamental
law of the country is ignored and trampled upon?

What good are laws if they are selectively enforced and, for the most part,
ignored?

I do live in the real world and know what the future holds as a consequence
of ever growing government and neglect of the law.


"Compromise is the red carpet for tyranny"

Ayn Rand


"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Milos,

You need to practice what you preach in order to lend
veracity to your claims. It is you who live in a situation
where you depend upon the government for your very
existence. You need roads, electricity, grocery stores
and telephone connections. You are trapped and living
a life the government controls. I can understand why
you yearn for what Barry claims to have stood for but
really didn't as he was perhaps more dependent upon
government than you are.

Myself, on the other hand, being a realist have structured
my life in such a way that I can reap government benefits
as long as they are available but can escape from them
should they involve the loss of my freedom. I can simply
sail away and avail myself of my offshore bank accounts
while your like continues to proclaim the virtues of
conservative values while living a life that does not
reflect your beliefs. That's the trouble with indoctrination
into any system of beliefs. It requires a blind adherence by
the believer and said adherence causes the believer's
enslavement.

S.Simon - sucks on any teat that's available but has other
teats lined up when old reliable dries up.


"Milos Forman" wrote in message
ink.net...
Simple Simon:

You have taken too many government pills. When the effects wear off
hopefully you will see as clearly as I.

Government handouts breed dependence. Dependence breds sloth.

Senator Goldwater is not the same as or equivalent to John Dean. Dean
has no
principals, no moral compass. He simply opposes Bush and Republicans in
general. Senator Goldwater is known for his principals and moral
compass.
Goldwater stood for individual liberty and the Constitution. He is THE
Conservative by which all others are judged. I do not care about the
popularity of Conservatism, I care about what is right. Right by my own
standards, the standards of an independent, self reliant man. If one
accepts
popularity as the metric for political or moral direction, in the right
time
and place, one would find the soles of his feet sore from excessive
goose
stepping.
Senator Goldwater was merely the torch bearer, not the torch. The torch
has
been passed on and again it will burn bright.
Remember, circumstance does not make the man, it reveals him.

"The government that has the power to grant you everything also has the
power to take it all away"

Barry Goldwater

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Barry Goldwater = John Dean. Both of them represent
the extreme ends of the political spectrum. While Goldwater
was at the conservative end, Dean is at the radical liberal
end of the spectrum. Both are the same in that they are(were)
unelectable.

Milos, one of these days you are going to wake up and smell
the roses that since conservatism is about as popular as
liberalism the only viable solution is something in the middle.

George Bush is in the middle. He's conservative when it comes
to the government's primary duty to protect the country and
he's moderate to liberal when it comes to giving the populace
what they want - handouts from the government at the expense
of the military/industrial complex. Mr. Bush lives in the real
world. I wish you would join us there.

S.Simon
"Milos Forman" wrote in message
ink.net...
Well said!!!!


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Where the heck is Barry Goldwater when we need him!

"Milos Forman" wrote in message
ink.net...
The dumbest thing I ever heard from a liberal was one who called
himself
a
"Compassionate Conservative" and he went on to create the
biggest
growth
in
government in 60 years, the largest entitlement package in
history,
the
quickest enaction of state police powers, signed free speech
limiting
legislation that he himself was unconstitutional, signed economy
destroying
tarriff legislation and leaves the borders wide open for illegal
immigrants.
If it looks like a Democrat, smells like a Democrat and quacks
like
a
Democrat - it's a Democrat!

Vote Gridlock! Save America!

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
Stupid Things Said By Liberals

December 15, 2003


Here's a list of some of the many dumb things libs said about
Saddam's
captu

Robin Wright, Los Angeles Times: This isn't going to transform
the
situation.
Joe Klein, TIME: Another terrorist attack on
America would completely change this dynamic.
Dennis Kucinich: No big deal, we've got to end the occupation
of
Iraq.
Campbell Brown, NBC: This should help President Bush.
MSNBC: The insurgents are too well organized to quit.
Paula Zahn and Aaron Brown, CNN: Bush had better not gloat.
Dan Rather, CBS (Paraphrased as he's impossible to
understand):
Think how poor Saddam must feel after being dragged from his
hole!
CNN: Iraqis don't care. There are gas lines and not enough
electricity. Besides,
why'd it take so long to get this one bearded guy who's not
running
anything?
John F-ing Kerry: It's a good day for Iraqis but Americans are
still
going to die.
Yasser Arafat, taking a page away from Tom Daschle: I am
saddened.
NPR: Repeated the no-gas, no-water, no-oil misery line.
Best - Evan Thomas, Newsweek: In a land where pride and
dignity
mean everything, the images of Saddam are clearly intended to
shame.





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