I suspected you'd suspect as much.

Seahag

The_navigator© wrote:

I guess you are confriming that there is no factual evidence that this
person existed. I suspected as much.

Cheers MC

Jeff Morris wrote:

Frankly, you're asking the wrong person - you might ask someone that
cares.
Part of the "uncertainty" is that the likely Hebrew name is sometimes
written in
English as Joshua, but is actually closer to Yahoshua. And, of course,
the
vernacular was a version of Aramaic.


"The_navigator©" wrote in message
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Are you saying we don't actually know his name???????????

Cheers MC

Jeff Morris wrote:


OK, the name "Jesus" didn't exist back then. In fact, it was spelled

"Iesus" in

the King James Bible. His Hebrew name would have been "Joshua" or a

variation

of that.


"The_navigator©" wrote in message
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Well that's supicious for a start -the bible doesn't use his correct
name???? Where's his birth records?

Cheers MC

Jeff Morris wrote:



I'm not sure of that "record," but I think most informed observers
would

agree


that Jesus probably did exist, that he was a Rabbi, and that he was

crucified.


The issue at doubt is his divinity.

As for his name, it was rather common, and by Jewish tradition he had
no

last


name. He would either be known as "... son of ..." or identified by
his

town.


And by definition, religion, or perhaps I should say "faith", is

irrational.

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
news


A man named Jesus is on historical record as having been
crucified. If I remember the record correctly there were
two other men crucified at the same time.

The other two dead men were no more Gods than Jesus
was. What was Jesus' last name anyway? Did he even
have a last name? Funny how everybody else in those days
seems to have had a last name. Maybe religious legends
don't need a last name?

Maybe religions are irrational? Yes, that's it.

How one group of religious nuts can claim with absolute
surety theirs is the only TRUE religion should tell any
sane man that NONE of them are right!

S.Simon


"Donal" wrote in message

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"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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Jesus? Don't you mean Easter Bunny?
There is NO Jesus, dummy.


Jesus is a matter of historical fact!

There is NO hard evidence that Jesus ever existed. Not even a
fossil

record.

Bob, You're an idiot.

Jesus Christ existed. He was crucified.

Believe it or not, these facts are a matter of record.


You live in a very young country. Perhaps you, mistakenly, think
that
records do not exist from the year 30AD. In fact, they do. There
is

*NO*

doubt about the existence of Jesus. NONE whatsoever! The Romans
were
great beaurocrats. They kept written records of all public events.

Both

the Birth, and the Cruifixion of Christ are documented facts.

You may well derive some personal gratification from the
denunciation of
Christ, but that is something that you will answer for.


Christ existed. That's an Historical fact.

Bush is a liar. That is also a fact!


Regards


Donal
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