I usually take my students out to the outbound channel, which is near
where we do MOB drills. More often than not we get lucky and have
inbound and outbound traffic in the area. I usually see the ships before
they do, and then I give them the talk about how you should be looking
all around you (including aft) because you never know what might be
gaining on you. Then we get the hell out of Dodge. They're almost always
amazed by how fast the ship gets to where we were.

"otnmbrd" wrote in message
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Sorry, but it's been awhile since I've transited SF Bay, so I can't
reasonably discuss the reason for the inbound/outbound cross over.
The main point, which I can see you understand, and which Shen was
poorly EG describing, is that, regarding stand on when talking large
ship small boat in narrow channels and TSS.
There are bound to be a number of fine points which may apply when
discussing this issue, regarding a specific geographical location and
"Port State" regulations,plus ships versus small boats, but if you
understand the basic application and apply it, you'll normally stay
clear of any and all problems...... i.e. when all else fails ....Rule 2

otn

Jonathan Ganz wrote:
I don't need to check, since I know that that is the
case. They are restricted to the channels, but of
course, they couldn't really leave them even if
they wanted to.

Another interesting thing is that occasionally
the inbound lane switches to the outbound
lane. Whereas, the outbound lane, as far as
I can recall, never switches to the inbound lane.
In other words, occasionally an inbound vessel
will use the outbound lane to go down the bay,
but that never seems to happen on the way out.

"otnmbrd" wrote in message
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Jonathan,
One thing Shen's memory didn't bring up, and you would need to check
Coast Pilot 7 to confirm this, is that the USCG has designated those TSS
areas in SF Bay, as narrow channels.
In essence, this restricts the ships to staying within the TSS, as well
as telling the small boater, the ship cannot maneuver outside of the TSS
and I don't doubt you can see how this can alter a vessel's actions
versus an at sea TSS.

otn