No, its just not worth wasting much time on this one. You already lost this same argument
several times over. The rules very clearly define several types of relationships:
stand-on/give-way is one, shall not impede is another. Vessels in heavy fog are a third.
You keep trying to claim that rules specific to one situation should be applied to
another. But there is absolutely nothing in the rules to support this claim. There is
no authority or commentator that supports your point of view. You haven't a leg to stand
on; you don't even have a license anymore.

You should hope that no one in the New Orleans MSO is an ASA lurker.


"Simple Simon" wrote in message
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otn tucks tail and runs because he cannot
defend an untenable position. All it takes is
a persistence and quoting the rules to defeat
these wannabes . . . Sooner or later they come
round or run away. Either way I win.

S.Simon


"otnmbrd" wrote in message
ink.net...
In other words, this is another simpleton troll, not worth responding
to, except to comment that it's a troll ... bubye simple....

otn

Simple Simon wrote:
Outside the Rules? How can that be when I am
quoting the rules and claiming they say what
they say? If you guys choose to have a narrow
interpretation, fine but that does not preclude
my maintaining they have broader implications.

I have given concrete examples and application
of the Rules to prove my point while you guys
resort to saying I'm not sticking to narrow
views. Why not argue on the merits instead
of wussing out?

S.Simon


"otnmbrd" wrote in message
ink.net...

Huh? To the best of my knowledge, other than CBD, for the purposes of
this discussion, it only applies to narrow channels, and TSS (Not Safety
fairways).
Now, are you trying one of your usual trolls, or is there something
outside of the discussion we're missing .... which relates to the
discussion? Rick? Was he ever in this discussion?

otn

Simple Simon wrote:

That's all obvious and I don't disagree. What I do disagree
with is the fact that Rick and the others have a narrow view
of when and where 'shall not impede applies. They claim it
only applies in narrow channels and fairways and traffic
separation schemes while I maintain it is a broader concept
applying as stated 'by any of these rules' ---------------

8 (f)(i) A vessel which, by any of these rules, is required
not to impede the passage or safe passage of . . .

S.Simon