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K Smith
 
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Default Engine options....decisions, decisions, decisions....

Gould 0738 wrote:
Need to make some final decisions about the best cure for my engine problems.

Options a

1. Have current 6354 turbo Perkins rebuilt by Pacific Detroit Diesel.
$3600-3800, plus 10% markup to my engine specialist who can set up the deal and
will handle transportation to and from the reman shop. Will need a new manifold
for another $1k, and new innards for the aftercooler......(close to free since
it looks like the aftercooler failed to bring down the engine and I bought the
aftercooler several years ago from my engine guy).

2. Brand new Perkins Sabre tubo engine, about $14k

and here's where it gets interesting.......

3. Brand new Perkins Sabre naturally aspirated engine, about $10.5k

Especially with the super deal my engine guy is willing to arrange on the
rebuild, I think I'd just automatically do the rebuild rather than the new
turbo engine.

But, the difference between the rebuild of my old turbo and the N/A Perkins
Sabre makes it a tougher call.

Anybody running a 6354 NA? I'd lose about 30HP, comparing the maximum ratings
of the two engines, but I typically run about 1800-1900 RPM with the 165 turbo.

I might lean toward the NA engine if I'm not going to lose anything more than
about 1/2 a knot, (the Perkins specialist says I might even go a little faster
with the NA at 1800 than with the turbo at 1800....hmmm).

Another factor: Wife says there is another boat in our future. Not necessarily
in the next couple of years, but certainly prior to retirement. She has a few
items on her boat "wish list" that she thinks are missing from our present
boat. General question: If you were considering a 25-year old boat, would you
be much more likely to buy the boat and/or pay a few thousand extra if the
engine were 4-5 years old vs. a 25-year old engine with 600-800 hours on a
thoroughly documented rebuild?

Such a quandry.



If it's a vote thing, mine is the NA new.

You get or I guess if you sell in the reasonable near future your
purchaser gets & hopefully pays a little extra for;

(i) New injector pump lines injectors, all will need replacing some time
soon on the old motor & cost heaps.

(ii) New warranted everything, manifolds, oil coolers, transmission,
pumps, electrics, starter, alternator etc etc (they usually come with
all the works & jerks)

As you know "everybody" claims their high hours engine has just been
"completely" rebuilt, when selling:-). However this type of spruik just
leads to more questions than answers, why? by who? why didn't they
replace? what if the pump? blah blah. Time is literally up on the old
girl Chuck, put enough money into it & she'll run again just fine, but
the avalanche had already begun when the transmission died a few years
ago, you'll get no credit for the big bucks you spent on that, whereas a
brand new maybe still under supplier's warranty complete power system???

The power difference is of little consequence in your usage.

K


Harry's lie of the day;


I've had some wonderful, dangerous times in sailboats, including:

transiting Cape Horn
sailing from Milford, Connecticut, across Long Island Sound to Port
Jefferson on
an Alcort Sailfish
competing in ocean racing with a 41' Swan
renting a BlueJay in S. Florida on which the mast broke off at the deck and
drifting within eyesight of
Cuba before being rescued
renting a 30' O'Day in San Diego, finding upon return the engine would
not start
and being forced to
"deadstick" my way into an interior slip using nothing more than the
rudder and
my mainsail, to the oohs and ahhhs of everyone watching. I have no idea
why I
was able to do this.
sailing from San Francisco to the Hawaii and actually finding it before the
advent of GPS