Nik wrote in
:

On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 14:38:03 GMT, Derrick Parfitt
wrote:

On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 07:27:25 +1200, Nik
wrote:

On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 13:02:44 GMT, Derrick Parfitt
wrote:

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 09:07:08 +1200, Nik
wrote:

On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 16:01:33 GMT, Derrick Parfitt
wrote:

Oh, Fantastic!

The paddy

Are you talking about me? If so, tell me who it was that founded
Dublin, Cork and Limerick...Who was Sigtrig Silkbeard? Where was he
King of?

The link of modern-day Irish to the samll number of Germanic
forebearers is tenuous at best.

No its not. Do you know what Galway means? How about Baile naGall?

The Norse and Irish considered
themselves quite distinct, enough so that the Irish kicked the Norse
out at the Battle of Clontarf.

No they didn't. They were allowed to remain but in a much more
quiescent manner.

The description of the Irish by the Norse in the sagas are quite
unflattering, and to some modern readers, seem almost comical. That
is to be expected of rivals, so that isn't a big deal.

Which Saga, in particular, are you speaking of?

The modern Irish owe most of the Germanic contributions to their
culture to the English, not the Norse.

There are word in Gaelic that are undeniably of Norse origin.

/polack/hun "asatru" alliance has just declared someone an
outlaw.

If you were speaking of me, I have not explicitly done anything
either way on this matter.

I didn't say you did anything. I am somewhat dismayed at people
using archaic Norse terms and customs to modern day situations
without understanding their ramifications. The people doing this do
not have Norse ancestry, but most importantly "outlawery'" can be
used for political gain.

Mr. Dokken should be shunned and banned from groups, but is this
"outlawery", whcih would predicate his murder?

Mr. Dokken may very well deserve outlawery, but what does the
paddy/polack/bavarian hun convention have anything to do with
this. They seem power-mad to me, as their historic precedence has
shown.

shakes head

As stated above I was referring to the use of "outlawery" in
modern-day heathen groups for political or personal gain. Most
"outlaweries" that I know of were for political reasons.

I've never "outlawed" anyone although I'm inclined to agree with
outlawing Dokken.

Mr. Dokken obviously deserves to be recognized for what he is and
everyone should be aware of his crimes.

Indeed.

If someone with NORTHERN GERMANIC BLOOD ever joined these groups,
or their crusade, then everyone involved would probably have a
heart attack.

Plenty of people in this newsgroup would have Northern Germanic
Blood...

I am quite aware of that, but it should be more than plenty, it
should be the majority.

There's no "should" about it. It is highly likely though, that this
is the case.

This is an incendinary post, but I am sick and tired of this
bull****.

We know you by your words.

I stand up by what I say and if I say something that is wrong , then
I say so.

Looking back, I should not have used the ethnic perjoratives.

By your words we know you.

If you are offended by my speech, then ....

*You* were the one who was implying that a "Paddy" ought not be here
or talking about Heathen issues and it was me that took you up on it,
being the most Irish one here. I pointed out some of the "Norseness"
of Ireland and you, in your ignorance, made comments about the Vikings
being kicked out of Ireland after Clontarf.

It is true that Ireland's history was at a crossroads in 1014 A.D. but
it is NOT true that given that Ard Ri Brian Boru's forces held the day
in the biggest battle EVER fought on Irish soil that the Vikings were
kicked out, as you claimed. That, is simply not true.

By your words you do not belong here.

Hahahaha....you've got a career in stand up comedy...

It is because of people like you that people are creating private
yahoo goups without keeping track of this newsgroup (A.R.A.)

Those people have abandoned their posts. Not me.

Think about it.

No, you think about what you've said and why it is both wrong and
intended to offend. I am meaning the "Paddy" reference as if it is
some sort of disqualification from being Asatru...you're sounding like
Bertie/Roger Williams there...that was his argument...


Bwawhahhwhahwhahhwhahwhahhwhahwhahhwhahwhahwhahhwh a!


But you said I refused to argue anything Njikky.

So, which is the lie?

Bertie