"Bobsprit" wrote in message
| Nope. Not at all. People carry a lot or a little when they cruise. Doug is
| doing little more than guessing at what cruising gear and supplies might
| weight.
| My ONLY point was that the J30 or Express 30 are still "performance" boats
| compared to cruisers like the Nordic, even when loaded down for a cruise.

The following from sailcalc wouldn't support your theory based on these
numbers....

Performance Comparison LOA Express 30 30

Nordica 30 29.49

LWL Express 30 24.5

Nordica 30 25

Beam Express 30 10

Nordica 30 9.77

Displacement Express 30 8200

Nordica 30 10220

Sail Area Express 30 472

Nordica 30 502

Capsize Ratio Express 30 1.98

Nordica 30 1.8

Hull Speed Express 30 6.63

Nordica 30 6.7

Sail Area to Displacement Express 30 18.57

Nordica 30 17.06

Displacement to LWL Express 30 249

Nordica 30 292

LWL to Beam Express 30 2.45

Nordica 30 2.56

Motion Comfort Express 30 22.39

Nordica 30 28.57

Pounds/Inch Express 30 875

Nordica 30 873