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Jeff? most cats are special made right? I mean they are all diff.
made to order. or are they made by production standards?

yours was special made?

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"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message
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The big problem in defending the Catamaran side of the multi vs. mono

discussions is that
there are simply very few choices of cats in the low end. While there are

numerous
possibilities in monos for under $50K, the entry for multihulls is much

higher. For
instance, if you're looking for a cat less than 10 years old and over 32

feet, you might
get a Gemini for as low as $70, but a more seaworthy Prout would probably

be over $100k.

If you go back much further, you find cats that are not as well designed,

and have spent
too much time in the tropics under charter. On the other hand, there are

numerous
examples of well designed monohulls that are 20-30 years old and can be

had at very
reasonable prices.

However, if you're in the market for a newer boat, the modern cats are

more competitively
priced. For instance, 42 foot good mono, roughly 5 years old, will cost

between $150 and
$220, depending on the brand etc. You'll find roughly the same price

range in 36 foot
catamarans, which have the same space & speed, or more.

-jeff

"DSK" wrote in message

...

Except for a few Chris White designs, I have yet to see a cruising
cat that was designed for cruising (ie a small number of people
aboard long term) rather than chartering or weekend partying (not
that there's anything wrong with that).

Jeff Morris wrote:
Have you been on a newer PDQ36? They are certainly not built for

chartering, and a
large
number of owners have done extensive cruising.


I stand corrected.... Actually I have been on a couple of PDQs. Should

have said "most"
not
"all." The PDQ trawler cats are really nice too.



3 sails in shallow water

So will a properly designed mono.


Are you saying that any monohull with a draft over 3 feet is not

properlly designed?

From my point of view, and for most U.S. East Coast waters, yes. At

least it's all mud &
sand......


3 can't use a windvane


Why not?


Apparent wind varies tremendously (as it will on a fast monohull). A

windvane will often
make
such a boat bear away and speed up until it's 60 degrees off course,

then wander back
and
forth in that same range.



4 poor performance in chop (also very noisy)

So have a lot of monohulls. Yes, the noise can be dramatic, but a

varies a lot, cat
to
cat.


True. But I was thinking of speed & steering, not noise. What's a little

banging under
the
bridge deck? Although I have seen some cats with scuppers that would

fountain very
dramatically when a wave slapped underneath....


Can you name a few? I'll admit that you can get one or two of these

traits, and if
you're
willing to get an older boat you can do better with a monohull. But

if you're
comparing
newer boats I don't know what would fill your description.


How much newer? I was looking at boats in the 10 ~ 25 year old range.

The French seem to
build
a lot of centerboarders with good accomodations & good performance. Some

of the ones we
looked
at were aluminum, which isn't everybody's cup of tea.

I freely admit to being biased towards monohulls, and try to give honest

assessments of
boats
I have experience with. Jeff, I did give you credit in an earlier post

for the same
approach,
only biased the other way! There are a few really nice multis out there,

but the
compromises
seem (to me) to be a bit more extreme than with monohulls, and the costs

higher.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King