"Donal" wrote in message

| Being good doesn't make you determined. Being determined will make you
as
| good.

Ozzy's recent display of determination to be an obnoxious, ignorant ass is
proof that your argument may have to be reconsidered.... since all his
attempts have fallen short of the true talent required to be "good" at it.
Bob on the other hand can be an ass without meaning to ....since he is
good at it.


| Let's put it another way, you can learn to be good if you are determined
| enough.

I don't know Donal.... let's review a comparison between Bob & Ozzy to
argue your conjecture.

Bob is good at trolling because he enjoys fishing. Oz is bad at trolling
because he is angry and humorless. While Bob understands that at times he
will suffer having his line stripped to the spool and accepts the
possibility of being dunked... he never seems to become emotionally unstable
enough to consider even a day with an empty creel as a bad day of fishing.
Bob is at his best and enjoying life when fishing.... you have to respect
that.

Ozzy on the other hand is "determined" to land a fish at all costs. Ozzy
believes his wealth should qualify him to hook up with any bait.... when he
fails to do so he feels cheated and spiteful. Despite all his determination,
wealth and effort... he fails to be "good" at it because he is a talentless
slack jawed lackey. Even donning his treasured Greek Fisherman's Cap to
disguise himself as a sophisticated, well traveled and educated member of
the upper crust.... his wrong side of the tracks upbringing expose him as a
Johnny come lately to the inner ranks of good taste, wit and rhetoric.

To summarize... Bob is a genuine Troll... while Ozzy can only ever be a
Mimic.

CM