On Tuesday, April 6, 2021 at 8:03:14 AM UTC-4, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 4/6/21 12:43 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 21:43:50 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

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On Mon, 05 Apr 2021 18:28:11 -0400, Wayne wrote:On Mon, 05 Apr 2021 12:47:31 -0400, John wrote:On Mon, 05 Apr 2021 12:23:40 -0400, Wayne B wrote:On Mon, 05 Apr 2021 07:01:38 -0400, John wrote:On Sun, 04 Apr 2021 11:30:05 -0400, Wayne B wrote:On Sun, 04 Apr 2021 07:19:44 -0400, John wrote: Trump ought to end up in prison for the various horrors he perpetrated on this country.Wayne probably agrees wholeheartedly with that, even though it's bull****.===That will eventually be decided by the justice system, not by internetdiscussion groups. I've always considered you to be a "law and order"type of guy so I find it interesting that you're so quick to dismissTrump's questionable behavior just because you support his
policygoals.Trump perpetrated no 'horrors' upon this country.===That will eventually be determined by the justice system. It seemslikely that neither your opinion, Harry's, or mine will have mucheffect on the outcome.You think the justice system may find him guilty of 'perpetuating horrors onthis country'? You must have a broad definition of 'horror'. A lot of propertyowners and folks experienced *real* horror during the riots this past summer. Ofcourse, those were just 'peaceful protests'. Bull****.And, FWIW, I dismiss none of Trump's illegal activities (once adjudicated assuch) regardless of my support for his policy goals.===I think that if you look back at the origin of this thread you'll findthat "horror" was Harry's choice of words, not mine. That said, Iregard any attempt to subvert a free and valid election, which thecourts have ruled, to be very serious. Hopefully you do also.The riots of last summer, and the
resulting damage, are a totallyseparate issue. It could be argued however that Trump's inflammatoryrhetoric was at least partially responsible. Loose cannons rollingaround on deck can do a lot of damage. (please note clever boatingreference)If this was the first time cities burned, I might agree with you. Letssee if you blame Biden in a week when Minneapolis goes up in flames.

I'm sure that the Floyd family will donate a substantial amount
of the 27 million to rebuilding the destruction that will be done
in Floyds behalf.

I bet Crump took $13.5 million of it already.

Just for fun, let's take a perfectly healthy white cop who has never had
a drink or taken opioids or had a tough life and have a big guy step on
his neck for nine minutes and 29 seconds and see what happens...

Why a big guy? Floyd outweighed the cop by at least 75 lbs and several inches of muscle. Look at the video again... the cop has some skinny arms. Floyd was bulked up. He must have been working out between hits on the crack pipe. His size was referenced as one of the reasons the cops had to subdue him.

Besides, the medical examiner has already said that he didn't die from asphyxiation. His heart gave out from an overdose and years of abuse. In your fantasy situation said cop would walk away. So would have Floyd if he'd laid of the drugs and had just gotten into the car.

Did anyone notice that Floyd said he didn't want to be in the cop car because he was claustrophobic? Did everyone forget the fact that the police got him out of a car to begin with? One he was passed out in and was with his drug dealer?

And then there's this:
"A key witness in the trial of Derek Chauvin is threatening to invoke his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination because his lawyer contends anything he says about his alleged drug activity with George Floyd could leave him vulnerable to being charged with third-degree murder in the death of the 46-year-old Black man.

Morries Hall, currently in jail, appeared via Zoom at a court hearing on Tuesday morning in which his attorney argued he has no immunity from prosecution that stems from testimony about his and Floyd's behavior while seated in a Mercedes Benz SUV shortly before police arrived on May 25 and arrested Floyd.

In his opening statement last week, Chauvin's attorney, Eric Nelson, told the jury they would hear from Hall, who has been identified during trial testimony as an alleged drug dealer from whom Floyd obtained narcotics.

"This will include evidence that while they were in the car, Mr. Floyd consumed what were thought to be two Percoset [painkiller] pills," Nelson said during his opening statement, naming Hall and Shawanda Hill, Floyd's former girlfriend, as passengers in the SUV with Floyd outside the Cup Foods prior to police arriving on scene.

Police were called to the store after Floyd allegedly used a phony $20 bill to purchase a pack of cigarettes.

"Mr. Floyd's friends will explain that Mr. Floyd fell asleep in the car and that they couldn't wake him up to get going, that they thought the police might be coming because now the store [employees] were coming out," Nelson said.

Nelson has been attempting to undermine the prosecution's primary allegation that Chauvin killed Floyd by burying his knee in the man's neck for nine minutes and 29 seconds, cutting off blood to his brain. Nelson has countered that a combination of the powerful drugs fentanyl and methamphetamine, both found in Floyd's system during an autopsy, and undetected heart disease is what killed the man, making Hall a valuable witness to Chauvin's defense.."

Fentanyl, methamphetamine and Percoset. Yeah, it was a knee on his shoulder blade that killed him. Uh-huh.