On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:46:37 +1200, The_navigator©
wrote:

Peter you sound bitter.

Nah, I've been to NZ once. Great scenery, nice people but... I can
recognise reality when it stares me in the face. You're a lot further
behind than Australia is when it comes to amenities and standard of
living, and we're somewhat behind the USA, Singapore, Japan and Europe
but in front of just about everywhere else . Once you factor in
lifestyle, Australia is miles ahead of everywhere but some pockets of
the USA. You guys have a good climate and lovely environment but lack
the critical mass of people for a 1st World economy and are doing your
best to bugger what economy you do have. That isn't intended as a
flame, it's a fact. Tasmania would be in exactly the same situation
(actually worse) if it wasn't a state of Australia yet I chose to live
here. Eventually Australia and Australians are going to own NZ; we'll
have your moribund railway system soon.

I can fly to Sydney in less than 2 hours and Melbourne in less than 1.
Both cities offer pretty much everything any 1st World city can offer.
You have to fly to Sydney or Melbourne too except it takes longer and
because you kept letting in migrants who used NZ as a waystation to
Australia, we've been tightening up on your access to Australia and
will keep doing so. I think this is a pity but if you want to complain
about us doing it, look to yourselves for the root cause.

I'm never bitter; life's too much fun.

Cheers MC

Peter Wiley wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 10:34:44 -0400, "Scott Vernon"
wrote:


"Peter Wiley" wrote

miss it? what 3rd world, back-woods country are you in that you can't

get

pink lemonade?

Australia

OH, nough said.


New Zealand is the *real* 3rd world place. We're 1.5 world.