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On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 06:36:07 -0500, Keyser wrote:On 2/17/21 12:13 AM, wrote: On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 19:58:23 -0500, John wrote: On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 17:27:37 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 10:49:01 -0500, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 10:01:25 -0500, John wrote: There's no question that pipelines are the safest and most cost effective way of transporting crude oil. I thought it was a disappointing, bad decision. On the other hand if that was the cost of getting Trump out of office, maybe it was worth it. I don't want my grandchildren growing up in a dictator led banana republic, supported by a cult of racist crazies. There you go with the nonsensical bull**** again. === It may be nonsense to you but not to a lot of other people. And there is quite a bit of evidence on my side of the argument. There were even 7 republicans who had the guts to stand up and let there vote be counted. It's good to know that sanity, honesty and respect for democracy prevails in some small corners of the senate. It's hilarious that you think the military, all of whom have sworn to uphold the Constitution, would allow someone like Trump to be a dictator. I'm sure there are some who would believe you. Show me some evidence that the military, never mind the Secret Service, would allow such a thing to happen. I would bet that a closed vote would have shown a lot of observant Democrats voting not guilty, which would have been the correct vote. -- === Trump had already taken steps to co-opt the military during his last 6 months in office, starting with his firing of the secretary of defense, Mark Esper, along with a lot of other defense advisers that Trump distrusted. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-54880774 https://federalnewsnetwork.com/federal-newscast/2020/12/trump-fires-defense-advisers-replaces-them-with-loyalists-lewandowski-and-bossie/ It's easy to say that a military takeover could never happen here but it has happened a lot of other places. Firing the SecDef is a very long way from "taking over the military". I doubt less than half of the military officers could even name the SecDef, much less pick him out of a line up. They could if they pulled guard duty! Maybe if they worked at the pentagon but I doubt an e3 in Killeen Texas knows the SecDef from the Post Master General. He might even think DeJoy is really a general. The military is a lot like the US Civil Service. Politicians and their appointees come and go but the core of the military never really changes. Talking about the military, when is Biden going to let the National guard go home? It's that silly assed mayor of DC. The Capitol protestors left on the 7th of January, at least the ones who were not arrested or shot. Making DC look like the Green Zone in Baghdad is not doing much for our national image and does nothing for our security. Bowser thinks keeping the guard there will make the Republicans look worse. That's her absolute only motivation. My neighbor works at the Monocle restaurant, about three blocks from the capitol. Fencing with barbed wire is keeping it closed. She's pretending the rioters are returning. These people are as clueless as Harry. You just don't know when the Trump thugs will return.Of course you do. The last time was publicized for weeks and the CapPowaved off the offers of help, even from their sister agencies in thefederal police. DC is the most policed city in the world with one cop per everyhundred people or so if you count the DC police and other DC swornofficers along with at least a dozen federal police agencies. It wasludicrous that the let a rabble of a couple thousand unarmed peoplebutt **** them that way.

It was controlled chaos. They got the publicity they wanted and
they only had to kill one civilian.
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