Wayne B wrote:
On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 14:01:43 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

John Wrote in message:r
KEYSTONE PIPELINE vs TRAIN vs SHIP TO MOVE OILThese numbers were
Fact-Checked with Google:1 Train has 100 cars, 2 engines and weighs
27,240,000 LBS.1 Train carries 3,000,000 gallons of oil.1 train uses
55.5 gallons of diesel per mile.It takes 119,000 gallons of diesel to
go 2150 miles from Hardidsy, AB toFreeport, TX.Keystone pipeline was to
deliver 34,860,000 gallons of oil per day.It would take 12 trains and
1,428,000 gallons of diesel to deliver that amount.PER DAY!521,220,000
gallons of diesel per year.The oil will still go to market with or
without the pipeline. By stopping thepipeline billions of gallons of
diesel will be wasted and pollute needlessly.Stop the Tar Sands all
together? Then we must ship the oil from the overseassandbox.1 large
oil tanker can haul 120,000,000 gallons of oil1 boat takes 15 days to
cross the Atlantic.1 boat uses 63,000 gallons of fuel PER DAY, that is
about 1 million gallons ofthe most polluting type fuel in the world PER
TRIP.*(See below)Or take
3.5 days of Keystone Pipeline to move the same amount of oil with
afraction of the pollution.*In international waters ship emissions
remains one of the least regulated partsof our global transportation
system. The fuel used in ships is waste oil,basically what is left over
after the crude oil refining process. It is the sameas asphalt and is so
thick that when cold it can be walked upon . It's thecheapest and most
polluting fuel available and the world's 90,000 ships chewthrough an
astonishing 7.29 million barrels of it each day, or more than 84% ofall
exported oil production from Saudi Arabia.Shipping is by far the biggest
transport polluter in the world. There are 760million cars in the world
today emitting approx 78,599 tons of Sulphur Oxides(SOx) annually. The
world's 90,000 vessels burn approx 370 million tons of fuelper year
emitting 20 million tons of Sulphur Oxides. That equates to 260
timesmore Sulphur Oxides being emitted by ships than the worlds entire car fleet. Onelarge
ship alone can generate approx 5,200 tonnes of sulphur oxide pollution
ina year, meaning that 15 of the largest ships now emit as much SOx as
the worlds760 million cars.Eliminate all gas consuming cars and diesel
vehicles?Worldwide car gas consumption is 403,583,712,000 gallons a
year. That's billion.Worldwide oil consumption is 1,500,000,000,000
gallons a year. That'strillion.It takes 2.15 gallons of oil to make 1
gallon of car gas and .6 gal of diesel.So it takes 867,704,980,800
gallons of oil to run the worlds cars, most dieselvehicles for a year
and some ships.That leaves 632,295,019,200 gallons of oil for other
uses.Passenger vehicles are only a very small percentage of the problem.
Why notcreate an industry to clean exhaust instead of crushing an entire
industry andbuilding a complete untested, replacement industry? Are we
willing todramatically increase mining to get all the minerals necessary
to make all thesebatteries and electric motors? Mining is way worse for the
environment than oilextraction. How does stopping the Keystone make
anyone feel good?[Copied from friend]--Freedom Isn't Free!

When you put it that way, Someone would have to be a complete
idiot to interfere with the completion of the pipeline.

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There's no question that pipelines are the safest and most cost
effective way of transporting crude oil. I thought it was a
disappointing, bad decision. On the other hand if that was the cost
of getting Trump out of office, maybe it was worth it. I don't want
my grandchildren growing up in a dictator led banana republic,
supported by a cult of racist crazies.


Then why are you supporting Nancy and her ilk?