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Getting a new heater and AC system. When the guy was under house doing
the ducts, he found two leaks in the water lines. Plumber could
not
get there for a week, so decided I had to crawl under and do the
job. Leaking pipe to a Union and a leaking sweated joint. Water
still dripping from lines, so near impossible to solder. Used
Sharkbite connectors. Fabulous invention. Thanks for info.
Never used 'em. Sharkbite connectors are great. Just be
prepared
for some sticker shock when you buy them. Pricey! Ended up a
lot cheaper than the $180 an hour
plumber.True.
Our kitchen remodel included some plumbing work. Since I had hired
a contractor for the job (a total rip-out down to sheetrock), a
plumber was involved. He used sharkbite connectors to join PEX to
the existing PVC.Why not just extend the existing (C)PVC to the
place you need it. Justbe sure to use the brass drop ear flanges
and brass shut off valves. Surely a plumber could handle pasting
together that pipe.

If you Google PEX vs CPVC you might find the answer.
What ever answer you want.
The guy from Flow Guard Gold says PEX sucks and the PEX guy has his
story about price. (fast easy install).
The reality is a production plumber who has the tools and the
certified installers to maintain the warranty on PEX is going to win
the bid on a big contract and everyone else is probably better off
doing CPVC.
YMMV depending on where you live and what plumbers do most there.
Repipe? I am going PEX. You can fish that stuff if you can support it.
You just need the tools to terminate it.
Open wall? Probably CPVC for the average guy.

I can see PEX winning for new construction. Like you said, it's fast
and easy. No need to be accurate with cuts or to carry an assortment
of 45's, 90''s, etc. We added a prep sink to the island, so the only
thing that slowed him down was the drain line.

I do like the idea of having a manifold for water distribution. Something like this:
https://www.supplyhouse.com/Viega-50250-VIEGA-1-2-18-Port-PolyAlloy-Crimp-MANABLOC-8-hot-10-cold?gclid=CjwKCAiAgc-ABhA7EiwAjev-j04b03p0kWgZftk48Z64s5An43mtjFleT-6pdl26f2VPavCD7ayPKhoCyXQQAvD_BwE


A few years back I bought one of those PVC pipe cutters. It made me
wonder why I fought it with a hacksaw for so long.

A real CPVC crew goes pretty fast but I agree if you have the tools
PEX is faster. I think the fittings may make it a push if you are
buying them by the box.
If I ever need to do a repipe it will be PEX because you can "fish" it

PVC cutters are cool. I have had at least one since the first one I
ever saw. This is PVC land so they get plenty of use. I also use PVC
for lots of other stuff. It is a pretty cool material, particularly
when used with the sheets. The cement works on that stuff too
.
I also use the cutters for other stuff. I have one in the kitchen for
a few things like cutting off the knuckles on turkey legs and cutting
up those twisty treat busy bones for the dog. If he hears the PVC
cutter going, I have a friend.

We used them in the flower store for lots of stuff too. You could
knock the ends off of 2 dozen roses or a ****load of carnations in one
"ticka ticka" operation with a pretty clean cut. It was also good for
cutting up those bamboo sticks we used in stuff.
Would something like that work to spatchcock a turkey?
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Freedom Isn't Free!

I seems to me that the jaws are too curved for that. Some decent
kitchen shears would be good for that.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Kobalt-2-In-in-PVC-cutter/1002633490?cm_mmc=shp-_-c-_-prd-_-plb-_-google-_-lia-_-208-_-plumbingtools-_-1002633490-_-0&placeholder=null&ds_rl=1286981&gclid=CjwKCAiApNS ABhAlEiwANuR9YI2KhqBVvt6qbGcv-v_1jncpAcnkzXwAsBtPB0Pm46nKdr_hFkN49BoC52EQAvD_BwE &gclsrc=aw.ds

We have one of these, and they are pretty strong.

https://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/store/product/j-a-henckels-international-robust-kitchen-shears/1011272690?skuId=11272690&poc=1016747530


I looked at this and learned all I wanted to know about PVC cutters!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5DJ6LXOTEc

I think I'll stick with a hacksaw for PVC. The hardest part of spatchcocking a
turkey is getting through the femur/ilium joint. Takes some knife work.
Sometimes results in a bloody finger. But it's worth it.
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Freedom Isn't Free!


I got a decent PVC a cutter from Homedepot at least 30 years ago. Still
works and is a lot better than a saw. Only time I use a saw now is the
Multitool if the plastic is broken in ground and lack of clearance.

You can do that with nylon layout string but the steel cable saw works
longer. The string usually only gets you one cut but you probably have
it on the job. I have a couple of the cable saws. They do break
eventually. The real trick is having the touch to get it started in
the right spot and keep the cut straight.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Husky-PV...-111/304583909

There are lots of models tho. They all work the same. I like to keep
one with the hose over a loop because you can really get them in a
tight spot.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/General-...-858/300707431


To me the cable saw seems to curl up and be pretty worthless quickly. An
oscillating multitool with a decent blade is quick and compact. And leaves
a much smoother end than a hacksaw.

That is why the old timers just use the nylon string. You just have to
keep it moving, bringing up new string as you cut. I am not sure an
oscillating tool would get to all of 2".