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On 1/26/21 12:49 AM, Bill wrote: wrote: On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 10:07:30 -0500, Wayne B wrote: On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 02:27:33 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 24 Jan 2021 20:12:56 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/24/21 5:42 PM, wrote: On Sun, 24 Jan 2021 09:43:52 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/24/21 9:10 AM, wrote: On Sun, 24 Jan 2021 08:26:27 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/24/21 12:18 AM, Bill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: ...new entry on "Storming of the Capitol..." Interesting read. Justan, of course, will have to wait until a family member of his can get her hands on the Classic Comics version... https://tinyurl.com/y3pnyv89 I notice there are already complaints about the article and under revision. Duh...that's how Wiki works, dummy. As it stands, though, it is a pretty complete article on the Republican-Trump Insurrection, with lots of cites, and much of it will be brought up in Trump's second impeachment trial, if there is one or, better, perhaps his criminal trial(s). I suspect in a real trial anything Trump said would fall under 1st amendment protection. It was ambiguous enough to be held as political speech. That was affirmed in National Socialist Party of America v. Village of Skokie, 432 U.S. 43 In a politically driven witch hunt like an impeachment circus it just depends on who can whip the most votes. In a trial it only takes one to hang a jury. So, my posit was correct: there is nothing Trump can do or say that you won't support. The First Amendment has its limitations, to wit: 18 U.S. Code § 2383 - Rebellion or insurrection Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States. (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; Pub. L. 103?322, title XXXIII, §?330016(1)(L), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.) How many successful prosecutions have there been for speech alone? That wasn't what you asked. You implied incitement to insurrection was protected free speech. It isn't. And Trump isn't a sitting POTUS anymore. I am not really sure that is true. The Burger court made anything remotely political, "protected speech". If walking around with swastikas saying "kill all the Jews" is political protected speech, I doubt anything Trump said is actionable. The impeachment is not really about the law tho, it is a purely political bill of attainder from congress and it gets by Art 1 Sect 9(3) by limiting the scope to purely political things. You just said he doesn't have a chance of winning an election ... why the impeachment? === To keep him from running for office, and also as a basis for ejecting him from republican party leadership. Trump's campaign style of working mobs of supporters into an emotional frenzy is dangerous as we have already seen. He richly deserves to be in jail but that's probably not going to happen. I doubt he would end up running again anyway but if the Senate votes to convict, unlikely, I expect to see an appeal and he has grounds. Then it will depend on just how "constructionist" the current Roberts court is. If the democrats really had a case, they would have the DoJ bring it but I doubt they do. And how much of Pelosi and the House Democrats support of the the BLM and ANTIFA riots is going to be brought up? With Federal Courthouses attacked. I think the Democrats are going to look at this in the future and ask themselves how could we **** up so majorly? I haven't read of many Dems calling for ANTIFA or BLM members to storm federal buildings, disrupt Congress, upset the results of elections, beat up guards and cops, kill or serious injure a few, et cetera, and otherwise engage in violent insurrection. No one who is intelligent and who really cares for this country is going to miss Donald Trump in high political office.-- Bozo Binned: Herring, Bert Robbins, JackGoff 452471atgmail.com,Just-AN-Asshole, Tim, AMDX, and Gunboy Alex, aka the Gang of Dull,Witless, Insult-Tossing Trumpsters. If you are on this list, I don't seemost of your posts and I don't read any of them.


How would Fat Harry know what intelligent caring people think. He
doesn't care enough to pay his federal or state taxes. he doesn't
care enough about people to honor his debts private and public.
He doesn't even care about his own flesh and blood. In fact I
doubt he would give a **** about Dr. Dr. if she weren't
supporting him.
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