On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 18:58:51 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/11/20 4:46 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/11/20 3:23 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 14:03:22 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 13:01:48 -0500, wrote:

Joe and Kamala have pushed the pig out of the White House

Laverne and Shirley would have polled as well as Biden/Harris. It was
just an anti-trump protest vote, having nothing to do with the
strength of the democrat candidates.

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I agree. If Trump had not behaved like such a lying, scumbag arse'l
he probably would have been re-elected. His ego must have led him to
believe that he had a blank check to do anything he wanted.

We are certainly on the race to the bottom. Hillary couldn't beat
Trump but she crushed Biden in the primaries. Now Biden is the great
white haired hope.
I wonder what it would take to get qualified applicants for that job.

The candidates you support couldn't run unopposed as libertarians and
win a race for dogcatcher.




If the news reporters actually were not extensions of the two primary
parties, they could.


What is your basis for saying that? Most libertarians who attempt to run
for federal office are nutcases, like Ron and Rand Paul, and they
usually run as Republicans, which is, after all, what they are by
another name. Many libertarian positions are outright insane,
considering the realities of modern society.

OK lets look at them.

Get rid of social security
and replace it with private charity? Really?

No the proposal was to replace SS with private investment and it came
from Barry Goldwater back when it was a viable option. We stayed with
the Ponzi and it is now upside down. We are borrowing money to make up
the shortfall. That is not viable for much longer. If I could have
just invested my FICA money in IBM stock I would have millions now,
even with the horrible IBM performance lately. In an index fund I
would have done better.

Ending prohibitions against dangerous addicting drugs?

Yeah, because the war on drugs has been so successful.
There are more people (per 100,000) addicted to opioids now than there
were when the drug war started.
All the drug war has done is turn our cities into combat zones,
corrupt the police and incarcerate about 100,000 people a year, mostly
people of color, for non-violent drug "crimes". Nixon's drug war has
put more black people in involuntary servitude than Lincoln freed.
The countries that have decriminalized drugs saw no real increase in
addiction. They just saw a drop in crime and political corruption.

Easier access to firearms?

Have our laws actually reduced the availability of firearms? The
places with the strictest laws have the most gun crime. Some laws are
just stupid, like equating a .22rf suppressor to a 50 cal machine gun.

Ending the public school system?

Another abject failure. We spend more than any other country to show
up around #26 in achievement. Private secular schools are a much
better bang for the buck and the Catholics blow them all away.

Endling environmental controls?

Not all environmental controls, just the arbitrary ones that cause
great financial and personal harm, returning very little in
environmental good.

No governmental oversight of health care?

I notice when that oversight offends the population as a whole, you
want to bypass it, like with this C-19 vaccine. If you just have an
orphan disease, wait 5-10 years, we will approve your drugs
eventually. Again an arbitrary policy that tends to make the US the
place with the most expensive drugs on the planet.

No controls on movement of capital?

We have that now?
Only when it is politically expedient. Bear in mind it was Bill
Clinton who gutted the regulations on the banks in the 90s and Barney
Frank who directed them to make NINJA loans to unqualified borrowers
through Fannie and Freddie.
The reality is the 2008-9 bailouts only kicked the can down the road,
We just borrowed the money to patch the hole and because the people
responsible, bought the government, they got bailed out on the tax
payer's dime. The average Joe took the hit.
Yeah government was the answer ... if you are Goldman Sachs.

Libertarianism is the ultimate in "I've got mine, **** you".

Socialism is "You earned yours so now give it to some lazy ****er who
refuses to work".
The only place it comes close to working is where they have a
totalitarian government like Cuba or a cultural work ethic,
monoculture like some Scandinavian countries. Even those places are
starting to see their socialism fraying around the edges as the worker
generation is dying off and their snowflakes are coming of age.