View Single Post
  #21   Report Post  
Jeff Morris
 
Posts: n/a
Default A tough question for Jeff and Shen44

You are an embarrassment to all sailors Neal. Read the rules before you engage in further
discussions about them. Your acting like you never read Rule 19 at all.

Here, you're actually saying that you don't have to obey the rules, because everyone else
must avoid you. What kind of idiot are you?


"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...

"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message

...
Simple Simon wrote:
It just so happens that this sound signal is also that of a NUC, RAM,
etc. This means that any motor vessel hearing the required signal
knows that according to the Rules it shall take action early and
adequately to avoid a close quarters situation.

Rule 19 doesn't differentiate between signals - ALL vessels must respond to ALL

signals!
Did you ever even read the rules?

Yes, and the way a motor vessel responds to the signal
of a saiboat, NUC, RAM etc. in restricted visibility
is to take action early and adequately to avoid a close
quarters situation.


That is the same way a sailboat responds to a powerboat.


Wrong. A sailboat upon hearing the signal of a powerboat
knows the powerboat is mandated by the Rules to avoid
a close quarters situation. The sailboat knows the motor
boat is either going to slow down and stop or change
course. In either case the sailboat, if it does the same,
will only worsen the situation because it might well be
taking an action that will make matters worse and that
is prohibited in the Rules. What if the sailboat decides
to turn to the right and the motorboat has turned to the
left then chances of a collision would be greatly increased.

It is clear by the different sound signals that since the
motor vessel must take action to avoid a close quarters
situation that it is not necessary for the sailboat to do the
same. In a fog how's the sailboat to know what the
motorboat is doing if the sailboat is changing its course?



The proper response of a sailboat upon hearing the fog signal
of a motor vessel is to maintain course and heading and slow
down or change course only if a danger of collision exists
because the motor vessel fails to take the appropriate action
stated above. In other words the sailboat stands on until
it becomes clear that continuing to do so will result in
a collision because the motor vessel did not follow the
Rules that apply to motor vessels.


You're doing a good job of stating how the rules apply for "vessels in sight of one
another."


This is how it works in a fog as well.