On Sat, 06 Jun 2020 20:53:20 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 13:58:33 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 6/6/2020 1:17 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 08:39:14 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 6/6/2020 7:55 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 06 Jun 2020 06:46:49 -0400, John wrote:

On Fri, 05 Jun 2020 15:08:10 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 05 Jun 2020 07:15:42 -0400, John wrote:

snippage
get used.

Bull****. All kinds of standards right he

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...coverings.html

I've shown you this before, but you choose to disregard it as it doesn't fit
your agenda.


"Your cloth face covering may protect them. Their cloth face covering
may protect you."

Note the word "may".
We may have snow in Ft Myers but I am not buying a snow shovel.

Anything that starts right out with "may work" does not sound like a
standard in any scientific sense.
Of you showed up at any OSHA regulated work space with a bandanna on
your face, they would kick you out. (to avoid a fine) OSHA does have
standards about what constitutes a mask.

Yes, there is some probability the mask will protect neither. However, there
*is* a standard about 'what a mask is'.

It is not a standard if anything from an N-95 to a neck gaiter passes
the test...
... unless we are just saying any gesture counts.

Can I just draw a mask on my face with face paint?

You actually got that from the CDC article above?

Yes, you can draw a mask on your face with face paint. Just cover it with a real
one when you go shopping.

That is the flaw in all of this, a "real" what?

For the third time:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...coverings.html

A neck gaiter? They only say they block a certain percentage of U/V
light and brag about how easy they are to breathe through.
A bandanna that doesn't seal to your face at all?
Either will get you into Costco, the only place I have been with a
mask policy.
OTOH
The Costco employees are wearing lexan face shields, not any kind of
mask at all. Any contamination that stops is going right down on the
surfaces and products in front of them. Keep that in mind when you are
opening that roaster chicken or handling that 30 pack of Charmin.
These are simply feel good gestures.


The purpose of the mask is not to keep things out but to keep them in. Maybe you
missed that. Luddite and I should have been more clear.

So now handkerchiefs have a magic one way fiber?

I suppose they should throw out anyone at Costco with an N-95 that has
the valve in front. That is exactly the opposite of what you say these
are good for.



LOL. Greg, you are doing this on purpose, aren't you?



I am just trying to follow the logic. It is particularly strange when
Costco, the only place here requiring a mask, has their people wearing
a Lexan face shield.
People really need to make up their mind. Is this flying debris or is
it an aerosol?

You really need to put any kind of PPE knowledge or general logic on
hold to wrap your head around this fad.



I'll play some more.

*Droplets* Greg. Potential Virus laced *droplets*

Droplets that won't penetrate a rag mask would quickly fall to the
floor but the aerosols that hang in the air would go through your do
rag like bird shot through a chain link fence.

Bull****. Disproved by Luddite days ago (which you disregarded, of course).

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