Subject: Let there be Nav. Light
From: "Simple Simon"
Date: 07/26/2003 15:15 Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: JMmdnZ4MQfMGYL-iRTvUrg@terranova.
LOL Let's see how many errors we can find!!!!
Now you have to resort to putting false words in my mouth.
I never said a sailboat should not slow down or even stop
if it heard fog signals dead ahead. What I said is a sailboat
does not have to slow down in a fog according to the Rules
when it does not hear a fog signal dead ahead on a collision
course.
"Wrong" EVERY VESSEL shall procede at a safe speed .... that means sailboats
too .... if safe speed is only 1knot then you need to slow down if you are
doing 6 knots.
I said a sailboat is already meeting the definition of
going slow because as we all know there is rarely very much
wind in a fog
Not always true, so you have to consider the "prevailing circumstances" (Been
in zero visibility with 25k winds)
and even if the sailboat, mine for example, were
going hull speed it would still meet the definition of going slow.
"Wrong" .... for obvious reasons
The only vessels that are required to slow down in a fog even
if they do not hear a fog signal on a collision course are motor
vessels sounding the signal for motor vessels.
"Wrong" .... G see above
These vessels
normally travel at speeds of twenty knots or greater which
is clearly a dangerous thing to do in a fog.
G That would be a high average....anywhere from 12k to 30k is more accurate.
They are required
to slow down to a safe speed.
"Wrong" They are required to "Proceed at a Safe Speed" (here's an area open to
debate)
Should they ever run into
a sailboat even if they were going two knots they would
be adjudicated to be going too fast for the conditions.
As would the sailboat, if it was underway, making way.
Vessels that sound other fog signals are higher up in the pecking
order so they are the stand-on vessel.
"Wrong" There is NO pecking order in fog and NO vessel is "stand-on"
The presence of fog
does not make them the give way vessel.
"Wrong" Every Vessel shall navigate with extreme caution .... that does not
mean "stand-on"
Motor vessels
are required to stay clear the moment they hear a signal
of a vessel higher up in the pecking order.
"Wrong"...." Every Vessel" shall do what is necessary to avoid every other
vessel.
A vessel engaged in towing sounds the same signal as a sailing vessel in fog (
and is not considered RAM simply because it's towing)...again no pecking order
because of sound signals.
All you have to
do is ask yourself how a dredge, for example, is going to
slow down or take evasive action to see how foolish and
untenable your motorboat mentality stand is.
"Wrong" ROFL HUH????? Dredges tend to be twin screw with all sorts of thrusters
and going at very slow speeds.... i.e. can stop and turn quickly.
Shen