On 4/13/2020 9:39 AM, John wrote:
On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 06:10:47 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote:

On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 8:31:06 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/13/2020 8:18 AM, John wrote:
On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 08:05:37 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 4/13/2020 7:45 AM, John wrote:
On Sun, 12 Apr 2020 20:57:02 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 12 Apr 2020 17:33:55 -0400, John wrote:

On Sun, 12 Apr 2020 17:20:55 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 12 Apr 2020 08:34:56 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 4/11/2020 9:57 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 15:23:13 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 4/11/20 1:32 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 09:29:26 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 4/10/20 9:42 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 16:31:10 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cud7...ature=youtu.be

Fauci is just hoping nobody compiles the things he said that turn out
to be wrong. He might cost them some grant money.


Oh, so you think Fauci is as intellectually full of **** as you are, eh?

He certainly seem to be very flexible in what he believes is true. The
"facts" seem to change daily and mostly toward the idea that this was
a lot of hysterical hype. The CDC and NIH guidelines are letters in
the sand that disappear at every tide change ... IOW about twice a
day.


Indeed, Fauci is a scientist who absorbs new data and evaluates it.



Science seldom supports an estimate that changes by a factor of 3600%
in 2 weeks. (2.2 million to 60,000) . It also seems pretty unlikely
that science makes the leap from "A home made face mask is useless" to
recommending them for anyone in public.
Those are politically knee jerks, not science.
Nobody wants to tell Nanna she is wasting her time but I bet most
hospitals are throwing those home made face masks in the trash. I know
I would not be happy if my surgeon showed up with a Granny's "do rag"
on his face.


Not quite that bad Greg.

The estimate of 2.3 million deaths was based on doing *nothing*.

The estimates of up to 240K deaths which was reduced first to
84K and then to 60K are based on everyone following the CDC
recommendations precisely.

Since we are all likely to get it eventually, the only thing I see
this doing is "flattening the curve" and not having it all happen at
once, They pretty much say that too. It is unlikely a vaccine will be
here before this thing runs it' initial course. This curve is likely
to look more like a decreasing sine wave as the virus waxes and wanes
through society ... assuming we stay locked down and start venturing
out over time.

Good, you see the purpose - flattening the curve.

It still doesn't change your chances of being infected and at our age,
dying. It just prolongs the suspense.

Which is why I said early on that I'd as soon catch it quickly, before the
hospitals got full!
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It's depressing to realize that once this is all over and assuming those
who became infected and recovered have a degree of immunity (although
not 100% confirmed) that us old farts who locked ourselves up in
isolation to avoid becoming infected will be the ones who remain
most at risk.

We may need to hibernate for a long, long time. :-)

That's the truth. I'm supposed to fly to Seattle in July for a wedding. Already
paid for five tickets. I'm having serious second thoughts about that trip. I'd
really hate to get out there, come down with the virus, and spend time in a
hospital there.

United will allow rescheduling the trip up to a year from the date the tickets
were purchased. We'll see, I reckon.

Also have a trip to Seattle planned for August. Motorcycle ride with my brother.
Having qualms about that one also. Alaska Air has the same rules as United.


Probably too early to tell but I have a hunch we'll still be dealing
with this for quite a while.

The social distancing was/is to flatten the curve. To stretch out the infection over a longer period of time, as you have pointed out.

So now Fauci, who said on Jan 26th that the US didn't need to worry about Corona, is backtracking and saying that earlier distancing would have saved lives. This guy seems to be in political cover-his-ass mode.

Perhaps he was listening to the 'on the spot' gurus from the WHO.
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See the timeline I posted in reply to "Its Me".

Interesting summary of early stages of this.

Many forget that the House Judiciary Committee voted
to terminate Trump's travel bans from China and Europe
on Feb 12th and to limit his authority for future bans.

and:

Statement by Gov. Cuomo on March 2nd:

“In this situation, the facts defeat fear, because the reality
is reassuring...The woman who has now tested positive, she’s
at home, she’s not even in a hospital, so the perspective
here is important. And the facts, once you know the facts,
once you know the reality, it is reassuring, and we should
relax, because that’s what’s dictated by the reality of the
situation. I get the emotion, I understand; I understand the
anxiety. I’m a native-born New Yorker, we live with anxiety.
But the facts don’t back it up here. . . . What happened in
other countries versus what happened here, we don’t even
think it’s going to be as bad as it was in other countries.”

and:

On Feb 25th, Dr. Anthony Fauci said:

“You need to do nothing different than you’re already doing"

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