Keyser Soze wrote:
On 4/4/20 3:02 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/3/2020 9:41 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 03 Apr 2020 16:24:00 -0400, John wrote:

On Fri, 3 Apr 2020 13:41:14 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 4/3/2020 12:31 PM, John wrote:
On Fri, 3 Apr 2020 10:56:48 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Politics aside, I think maybe the collective actions taken
by everyone, including government officials, have been
an over-reaction driven by public fear and panic.

The recommendations ofÂ* scientists who's lifetime
work has been studying epidemics and pandemics
have driven the reactions.Â* Their input is
very important and valuable but it has to considered
from the standpoint that it comes from a narrow
field of view with limited regard to other factors
like how their academic recommendations affect
the overall economic status of the country.

As more "granular data" is crunched, analyzed and
announced to the public and to government officials,
the situation seems only to worsen.

Sweden took a different approach.

They issued recommendations that those at high risk
take precautions to isolate themselves.
Logical, not emotional or panic driven.

They recommended "social distance" protocols for
the rest and hand washing, etc.

They recommended avoiding groups of 50 or more.

But, they did *not* shut down schools, businesses,
restaurants, etc. for the rest of the public.
They emphasized the responsibility the public has
to avoid becoming infected as best they can while
recognizing that over 80 percent of those who *do*
become infected will recover, most with no need
for hospitalization.

As of this morning Sweden, with a population of
just over 10 million, has 5568 confirmed cases
with 308 deaths.

Wondering if this approach would have been more
appropriate.

Interestingly, California seems to have successfully
"flattened the curve" yet testing in California
lags well behind other "hot spot" sections of the
country.

We have 784 cases per million and Sweden has 607 cases per million.
It's not
like they're that much better off than we are, and I'll bet their
inner city
population pays much better attention to directions than ours does.
Compare our
cases per million to Italy, Spain, Germany, Belgium, France,
Switzerland,
Netherlands, and the list goes on.

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...IIsE#countries



I'm wondering if Sweden won't start climbing the curve pretty soon.


There may not be that much difference in terms of cases per million
but they have not shut their country and economy down like we have.
In that respect they are *much* better off than we are.

Even more reason to believe we may have gone about this wrong.

I guess the big question is how bad it would have been if we *didn't*
shut down.

I think what Sweden is saying is you can be careful without completely
shutting down everything.
In real life we are not really keeping people at home. We are just
limiting where they can go. Yesterday Walmart was a zoo ... pretty
much just like normal. The Publix is pretty busy too, in spite of not
having much there. Ace Hardware was a little slower than usual.
I am washing everything that comes in the house now with something. If
it is something that can take it, I spray it with denatured alcohol.



Back in January, a week before Trump banned travel from China,
Doc Fauci said in an interview with Newsweek that the coronavirus:

"is not a major threat to the peopleÂ* of the United States and this
is not something that the citizens of the United States right now
should be worried about."Â* He also commented that it "would be
like the flu".

Yesterday he's was on CNN saying that he can't understand why the entire
United States hasn't been put on a mandatory lock-down.



That's how science works...you learn new things and you adjust your
thinking. Well, some people adjust, but not all...

https://i.ibb.co/X2yfz76/C59-DE935-8...60-B627636.jpg


I guess you are Liberal Arts, not Scientific. You never adjust your
thinking.