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On 3/25/20 8:58 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/25/2020 8:42 AM, John wrote:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 21:30:41 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/24/2020 9:20 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/24/20 8:51 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


With all the focus on convid-19 and some of the dire warnings,
little is said much about the regular, seasonal Flu.

I looked up some info:

The regular, seasonal Flu has peaked in terms of how many have
caught it and is beginning to decline.

But the stats are surprising.

According to CDC estimates (USA):

Â*Â*From October 1, 2019, through March 14, 2020, there have been:

38,000,000 – 54,000,000 flu illnesses

17,000,000 – 25,000,000 flu medical visits

390,000 – 710,000 flu hospitalizations

23,000 – 59,000 flu deaths

Another website with Flu statistics that also referenced
data from the CDC had slightly lower numbers but still
within the ranges shown above.

Makes me wonder what the deal is with the corvid-19 virus
(which is an entirely different virus).

Total deaths in the USA as of this post totals 696 with
confirmed cases of 53,276.

At first blush, it would seem like corvid-19 is being
way overblown in terms of it's threat ... OR ...
there's more to this than we are being told.





I don't believe we have even begun to get a handle on the number of
COVOID-19 cases that are extant in this country, nor has the "season"
for it come close to peaking.

Another factor: the percentage of deaths attributed to the flu versus
the percentage theoretically attributable to COVID-19.

Let's say there are 45 million flu cases a year here, a number between
38 and 54 million, and 35,000 deaths, again an arbitrary number. A 1%
death rate would add up to 450,000 deaths.

The estimates for the total number of possible COVOID-19 cases in this
country isÂ* higher than the numbers of flu cases, and the death rate is
estimated to be much higher than the 1% rate for flu deaths. Also,
apparently it is far more contagious than flu.

I've had the various sorts of flu at least a half dozen times over the
years. A couple of times it knocked me on my ass, but I survived.

There are an awful lot of unknowns about COVOID-19.

But, hell, we'll be through it by Easter, your Trump sort of says.


I am tired, so maybe I am screwed up but the flu numbers mean that those
who got the flu (as of March 14th) is roughly 1,000 times the number of
people who have confirmed corvid-19 (latest number).Â* Deaths due to flu
are roughly 30-40 times those of corvid-19 so far.

I don't know who to believe anymore.Â* Saw Mayor Bill De Blasio earlier
delivering a very dire message of what he sees in our future.Â* Then,
as you say, Trump thinks everything will be hunky-dory in about 3-4
weeks.

I think the bottom line is nobody knows.


I don't think Trump has said everything will be hunky-dory at all. He
would like
to get some folks back into the workplace by Easter. Not all the
folks, and
maybe not a large percent of the folks, but the folks who live and
work in areas
where the virus is not inflicting great damage.



Trump is pulling back somewhat on his original statements to "open the
USA for business".Â* He's now refining it to reflect a limited, slow
"opening" depending on the data available in another 2 or 3 weeks.

I just wish he'd be a little more professional in how he announces
his thoughts, rather than brag about how smart he is.Â* His description
of "the test"Â* being "very unpleasant" with the swab being "stuck way up
into your nose and then a left turn at the eyeball" may be a goofy
attempt at humor but it sure doesn't inspire people to be tested
or to calm the public's concerns.

I understand his concerns.Â* The medical/scientific community being
academics who routinely deal with crunching numbers, creating models,
etc., are not as influenced by the economic ramifications.
Trump and state governors recognize the need for revenues to keep
the country and states operating.

It's a tough balance.

Please. Trump doesn't give a **** about this country. His only concern
is the impact this ****eree might have on his election this fall.