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On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 02:39:00 -0000 (UTC), Bill
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Tim wrote:
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/educati...cGUEuPignWMCjY

That's what PBS is saying. Around here, I know of high school grads who
are making 50,000+ a year in the oil patch. Only requirement is be
willing to work and pass a drug test.


One of the expletive in my group who went to Slidell, LA after Katrina had
been a shop teacher. Head of the state industrial arts teachers group.
When the state universities and community colleges came to him saying they
want all high school to be college Prep programs, and if they needed other
training to go to the state or community college system. He told them they
were idiots. Couple years later they came back and admitted they were
idiots. Almost all the schools, at least in the Bay Area have got rid of
shop classes, and sold off the equipment. I think Livermore high is the
only school I know of locally that still teaches shop. And with the cost
of buying equipment and the lack of people who could teach the classes who
have the degrees required, I see a hard time bringing sense back to the
primary/secondary education systems.

They are starting to find those "sit and think" jobs are the easiest
to export. An engineer or software geek in a cube in Mumbai is as good
as one here for 20% as much money. His work just gets delayed 250-750
MS depending on how many satellites it bounces off of.


Back in about 1993, when I worked for Maxtor, someone asked the CEO why we
did not have the new Head-stack assembly facility here, instead of in South
Asia. Was mostly robotics assembly. The fully bundled labor costs were
about $3.50 an hour. Cost for labor, the office staff, the building. More
like $50 an hour here. We did the engineering here, but at times would fly
to Thailand. Now just hav here Mumbai Engineering fly over.