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Default Abrogate the 14th?

On 10/31/2018 1:57 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/31/18 1:53 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/31/18 12:16 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 06:43:34 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 10/30/18 10:09 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 15:10:33 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

POTUS Pig Vomit wants to kill the 14th Amendment, theÂ* one that
says:

"???Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United
States, and
subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United
States
and of the State wherein they reside."

You just know that Orange Asshole has never read the Constitution
and if
heÂ* does ever read it, heÂ* won't understand it.

Trump is not the first one to question what "Under the
jurisdiction of
the US" really means. I heard it discussed in the 90s when Clinton
was
on the anti immigration bandwagon and it has popped up a number of
times since then.

Did Clinton suggest abrogating the 14th via Executive Order?

You consistently miss the forest toÂ* bite on a tree.

Maybe not Clinton personally (I never heard him say either way) but
there was a lot of discussion about the same question we are having
today. What does "under the jurisdiction" really mean?
If we did not have such a feckless legislature they would have written
a decent immigration bill sometime in the last 80 years but they
haven't.
Unfortunately in their absence it will come down to what 5 people in
the SCOTUS decide.



I'd be surprised if the lower federal courts or the Supremes even took
up the case. The first sentence of the article is perfectly clear.


Yes, very clear.Â*Â* And the illegals are they under the jurisdiction?Â* The
courts do not take it, the executive order stands.Â* Hope you survive the
apoplexy.


Oh, if Pig Vomit promulgates it, anÂ* immediateÂ* suitÂ* will be filed
againstÂ* it, theÂ* courtÂ* will rule against Pig Vomit,Â* andÂ* the higher
courtsÂ* will let theÂ* ruling stand.



This whole matter has never been tested in a court including the SCOTUS.
New territory. Step one in getting the 14th clarified
is to do exactly what Trump is threatening to do since congress members
just sit on their hands trying to look pretty without taking a position
that may cost them a vote.