On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 13:07:32 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 10/31/18 12:16 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 06:43:34 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 10/30/18 10:09 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 15:10:33 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

POTUS Pig Vomit wants to kill the 14th Amendment, the one that says:

"???Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and
subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States
and of the State wherein they reside."

You just know that Orange Asshole has never read the Constitution and if
he does ever read it, he won't understand it.

Trump is not the first one to question what "Under the jurisdiction of
the US" really means. I heard it discussed in the 90s when Clinton was
on the anti immigration bandwagon and it has popped up a number of
times since then.

Did Clinton suggest abrogating the 14th via Executive Order?

You consistently miss the forest to bite on a tree.

Maybe not Clinton personally (I never heard him say either way) but
there was a lot of discussion about the same question we are having
today. What does "under the jurisdiction" really mean?
If we did not have such a feckless legislature they would have written
a decent immigration bill sometime in the last 80 years but they
haven't.
Unfortunately in their absence it will come down to what 5 people in
the SCOTUS decide.



I'd be surprised if the lower federal courts or the Supremes even took
up the case. The first sentence of the article is perfectly clear.

The first sentence of the 1st amendment is pretty clear too but the
interpretation is more far ranging so who knows what the courts might
make of it.
Realistically this is a question for the legislature, that has the
responsibility to "To establish an uniform rule of naturalization"
Section 8 (4)
They are the ones who made up the law that says any child of a
citizen is a citizen. The Constitution is silent on that. It certainly
makes sense that they could more narrowly define what the 14th
amendment is saying, much like you want them to define what the 2d
amendment says.
We let the courts run amok with the 1st amendment and you see where
that ended up. KOCHPAC is now a "person" with full 1st amendment
rights.