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Jeff Morris
 
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So many? The actual number of cruising cats that have capsized is miniscule, depending on
how you draw the line perhaps only 5 or 10 in the last 50 years.

Drawing the line is important - clearly racing boats are in a different category from
cruising cats. It is accepted that if you don't capsize a racing tri on occasion you're
not pushing it hard enough. I don't like to consider cats under about 34 feet as offshore
seaworthy, since the general design does not scale down very well, and compromises are
made to fit into a slip.



"The_navigator_©" wrote in message
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Explain why so many cats break up and sink after capsize?

Cheers MC

Jonathan Ganz wrote:

Wrong again Neal. A mono will right it self to be sure.
Occasionally, on the bottom. The catamaran won't
right it self, but it'll still be floating. Also, you don't have
to washing machine effect in a cat. If you flip, you stay
flipped. If you prepare for that possibility, survivability
goes way up, because you can stay with the boat. You
don't need to purchase an expensive liferaft. The boat
becomes the liferaft, as it should.

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
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IN EVERY WAY THAT MATTERS, I should have said.
The items you listed like limited cabin space, small cockpits
etc. don't matter to real sailors. As a matter of fact limited
cabin space is better and a small cockpit is better as far
as real sailors are concerned. We don't want a floating
condo or a condo ashore for that matter like you lubbers
do. We want something safe and secure in which to sail.

Any multi-hull is markedly inferior as far as seaworthiness
is concerned compared to a proper monomaran. The reason
for this is well known and is because as proper monomaran
will recover from a capsize while a multimaran will remain
upside down. Try sailing an upside-down boat sometime,
that is, if you live through the violent turning and jarring that
occurs from the cornerish nature of a multimaran.

Your example of tens of thousands of cruising cats
is 'ludicrisp' (Mike Tysonspeak). It proves your lubberly
proclivities. Why else would the mention of 'folding' even
be imagined. One need only fold when one places a
cat near shore or ashore.

Priorities, lubberboy, priorities!

"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message


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Superior in every way? Are you daft?

Tris have a few advantages over cats: they tack better, they're usually


faster in light


air, there are some very neat folding designs. But overall, they don't


make it as a


cruising boat. Perhaps you've noticed that tens of thousands of


cruising cats have been


built, but there are virtually no cruising tris.

A few reasons: they bounce back and forth on the amas, they have limited


visibility,


they're hard to get into, they have limited cabin space, the cockpit is


usually very


small. When they are overloaded they become dangerous. These are not


drawbacks for a


racing boat, but they certainly don't help a cruiser.

On top of this, tris are much easier to capsize than cats; in fact the


vast majority of


multihull capsizes are tris.

Once again you've demonstrated a complete lack of understanding on the


topic. At least


you're consistent.

-jeff


"Simple Simon" wrote in message
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Tris are superior to cats in every way.

"Oz1" wrote in message


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But a tri is OK!