On Fri, 15 Jun 2018 07:31:42 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 14 Jun 2018 19:48:11 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 14 Jun 2018 13:37:34 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


The USA did a lot to help beat the Germans and save Europe but sometimes
I think we tend to minimize the contributions and sacrifices made
by Russia.

It the Germans had not screwed up and attacked Russia we might be
looking at a completely different Europe, one that speaks German.
If the Germans had simply concentrated on invading the UK in the
summer of 41, and not instituting operation Barbarosa, I doubt anyone
would have been able to stop them. The US was still pretending to be
neutral at the time.
If we really had to try to take back all of Europe from Western Africa
with no infrastructure to support an invasion force and the Germans
pretty much controlling the Atlantic from Gibraltar to Iceland along
with choking off the Med and owning it, I don't even know how we would
get there. I am not even sure we would try.

Sounds like you watched WWII in Color!

.... or just about any other objective look at the war. The Germans had
the ability to own all of Europe but Hitler let his ego and racism
override his general's advice. He thought the Russians would be easy
to beat and that was the worst mistake of the war.
The Japanese really screwed him tho by attacking Pearl Harbor and
getting the US into the war. Then he doubled down on that by declaring
war on us himself. If he had just stayed quiet about the US and let us
turn our focus west we might have actually backed off the help we were
giving the Brits.
So many of the things that affected major turning points were really
bad decisions or in decisions by Hitler. I am watching Hitler's Inner
Circle now on Netflix. They are talking about all of the infighting
among the higher ups in the reich. It certainly does not look like one
big happy family.