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Keyser Soze

On 6/14/18 10:08 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 14 Jun 2018 21:16:02 -0400, Keyser SÃ¶ze
wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/14/2018 9:03 PM, Keyser SÃ¶ze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/14/2018 8:54 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/14/18 8:47 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/14/2018 7:48 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 14 Jun 2018 13:37:34 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

The USA did a lot to help beat the Germans and save Europe but
sometimes
I think we tend to minimize the contributions and sacrifices made
by Russia.

It the Germans had not screwed up and attacked Russia we might be
looking at a completely different Europe, one that speaks German.
If the Germans had simply concentrated on invading the UK in the
summer of 41, and not instituting operation Barbarosa, I doubt anyone
would have been able to stop them. The US was still pretending to be
neutral at the time.
If we really had to try to take back all of Europe from Western Africa
with no infrastructure to support an invasion force and the Germans
pretty much controlling the Atlantic from Gibraltar to Iceland along
with choking off the Med and owning it, I don't even know how we would
get there.Â* I am not even sure we would try.

The United States suffered 419,400 fatalities for all WWII related
causes and had 671,801 total injured.

The Soviet Union suffered somewhere between 20,000,000 to 27,000,000
fatalities with 14,685,593 injured.

That was the only point I was trying to make but now Harry calls me a
Putin lover.

Estimates vary, but the number of Russians killed by Stalin range from
about 8 million to 20 million.

What does that have to do with sacrifices made by the USSR in WWII?

Try to pay attention.

Life is considered cheap in Russia and lots of deaths may not be a strong
motivator. Get it?

No. Motivator for what? Kicking an invading army's ass?
I was commenting on sacrifices made in WWII.

I guess it's impossible for me to think like you.

Those sacrfices might not have been a motivator for the Sovâ€™s land snatch.

I am not sure you can call a 4 1/2 year campaign against a very
motivated German army a "snatch".
They were just following a 4000 year tradition. You get to keep what
you take in a war. It was even true after WWI setting into motion
problems that still plague us today in the middle east. I am actually
surprised the French gave up their sector of Germany is easily as they
did. If it wasn't for pressure from the US they may have still been
there. The French, since it was contiguous territory, thought it
should be theirs anyway. They did annex the Saar for a while until we
made them give it back.

I assume your reference to "problems that still plague us" is just an
oblique way of bringing up your objections to the Balfour Declaration
and the promise of Great Britain to re-establish a Jewish state in the
Middle East.