As long as it keeps you happy. I prefer lazy, old fart sailing. That's why
I sold the Hobie.


Scott Vernon
Plowville PA __/)__/)__

"Gilligan" wrote in message
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Scotty:
There's no big water, but it doesn't reduce the challenge or unique skills
required.
The wind in the mountains is unpredictable and turbulent. I've seen three
boats separated by about 200 yards all on different tacks. Airflow in
fiords
can be quite complex and actually have two opposing directions. You can
sail
upvalley and down valley without having to sail into the wind. The wind
can
gust from 0 to 90 mph, it can also blow straight down. Sometimes anchoring
next to shore will require 1500 feet of line because the water is 500 feet
deep - just offshore. The water is also really cold, in places you have
about 20 minutes after capsizing before hypothermia sets in. You can also
get attacked by moose, dumped by avalanches or rock slides and have a real
good chance of being hit by lightning since storms are very frequent.
Add to that the intense sun, lower air density, chronic hypoxia and you
can
have a great time. Fustration and misery abound!


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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Now if only you had a decent place to sail..........it'd be perfect.

Scotty

"Gilligan" wrote in message
news I don't think that a guerilla force can be defeated from the
outside.
It
must be defeated from within. America's great weakness is its lack
of
"on
the ground" intelligence, which will make defeating the Savages of
Islam
very costly. These guys are not like your typical Commie.

The US Constitution is the greatest government document in all of
history.
It's concise with no fluff and has a very solid philosophical basis.
Contrast it to the documents of foriegn countries and you'll realize
why
they are so inferior.

I assume where you live there's lots of liberals. Out here we have
drive
through liquor stores, it's legal to drive with a loaded pistol in
the
car,
very high or no speed limits, some places it's legal to drink and
drive,
it's legal to shoot right in your own yard, there's the famous "make
my
day
law" where tresspassers can be shot on sight near your house (they
don't
even have to be in it) and a good lack of preventative type laws.
Needless
to say, the liberals have been run off and our rednecks are the
best.
Every
morning I awake to the sound of some good American exercising his
Second
Amendment Right, hell, I live within several hours drive of atomic
bomb
detonation sites, Barry Goldwater's home and John Wayne's
birthplace.
There's missle silos all around and B-52's buzzing chickens in the
barnyard!
Who, in their right mind, would want to live anywhere else?



"Simple Simon" wrote in message
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That was before the advent of modern guerilla warfare, my
dear man. Such tactics nowadays in Iraq and other Muslim
countries would only result in greater losses because they
would allow the guerillas to become better organized. As
long as a guerilla force is disorganized they are highly
vulnerable. I just got done watching "Collateral Damage"
so I should know.

Libertarian ideals are not bad ideals, as a matter of fact,
they are good ideals. But, that doesn't change the fact
that probably over 95 percent of the American people
don't think they apply any more.


"Gilligan" wrote in message
news Did you know that George Washington was a libertarian?
Libertarian
ideals
are perfectly embodied in the US Constitution. Are you saying
the
US
Constitution is antiquated?

I've only cited the use of feigning tactics in the Revolutionary
War.
Would
you care for some modern examples where a smaller force
slaughtered
a
much
larger force using feigning tactics?

Hitler through the Ardenne. McArthur at Inchon. Japanese Navy vs
Russia
Navy. The US Marine Corps did a great job of fighting while
retreating
from
the Chosin Reservoir in Korea. They were outnumbered ten to one.
Do
you
think they lost?

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
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George Washington, in case you've forgotten, lived over two
hundred
years ago. His tactics are as antiquated as libertarian
ideals.

FACT: No armed conflict has ever been lost by the overwhelming
and aggressive use of force. Retreating does not fit either
use.


"Gilligan" wrote in message
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George Washington must be an idiot then:







http://hoover.archives.gov/exhibits/...Washington.htm

GEORGE WASHINGTON realized he could not win the war by
engaging
in
huge
battles. He devised a new strategy of defensive war designed
to
allow
small
victories against British power, often by feigning retreat
and
then
circling
back for unexpected strikes. When Congress turned over full
military
responsibility to Washington in 1777, he could easily have
controlled
all of
America. Instead he wielded the authority necessary to make
command
decisions but kept Congress fully updated to the needs and
actions
of
his
army. His calm, tough realism won over many a detractor.

As I said, retreat then go back.



"Simple Simon" wrote in message
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Stupid suggestion. One does not win a war against
terrorism by retreating.


"Gilligan" wrote in
message

thlink.net...
If what you say is true, then wouldn't it be more
effective
to
pull
completely out of Iraq so Saddam and his supporters
would
take
over
again
and then go back in and kill them?
It would cost less American lives, tax dollars and give
our
over
extended
military a needed rest.