On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 06:15:34 -0000 (UTC), Bill
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On Sat, 24 Mar 2018 18:18:03 -0400, John H.
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On Sat, 24 Mar 2018 17:25:11 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 24 Mar 2018 14:31:07 -0400, John H.
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Can't get on a military installation any more
without that, unless you're willing to go through a bunch of crap.

Times certainly changed. I used to just get waived through the gate at
Andrews and I shot skeet there so much that nobody ever asked who I
was. We used to give the "puller" a buck a round but I think the range
was free. (Bring your own ammo). I think you could get it at the PX
but I would have needed an ID there.

Things have changed since 9/11. I don't know of any 'open posts'
anymore. Ft. Belvoir didn't even
man the gates, except for the main gate. Now they're all manned and the
ID card is scanned. Many
days they'll have a 100% ID check and everyone's ID gets checked. There
must be at least one
military ID in the car.

The last military base we were on is in California.
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/california/Liggett%20sign.jpg
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/california/M551%20Tank.jpg
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/california/Target%20Tank.jpg

They did an ID check and ran us on the computer, took about 5 minutes.
This is up a mountain on a dirt road from Big Sur off the Pac Coast
highway.
It is a pretty cool drive but at the top of the hill you hit the back
gate of an army base. They do let you drive through tho.

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/california/...the%20hill.jpg




It is an armored combat test base plus a reserve training base. Civilians
are allowed to hunt on weekends and government holidays. Is in the deed
restrictions. William Randolph Hearst had his hunting camp there. Admin
building is his old hunting camp. Gorgeous building. Supposedly Russian
Boars were introduced here by Hearst. He sold the land to the government
as a training base for a buck, with the provision that public hunting will
be allowed. That drive to the coast is paved these days unless you come in
from Carmel Valley. You probably visited Hearst Castle. The Hearst cattle
company still owns as far north as you can see from the castle. 89,000
acres.

We were on the Pac Coast Highway and stopped at a place that wanted
$900 a night for the cheapest room they have but the only one
available was $1600. We never got past the guard shack. Then my wife
said there was a road back there that looks like it gets up away from
Big Sur. That was the one we took. It was pretty much one lane the
whole way and if it was paved, it needed a lift badly.
We ended up in King City for the night.
I may have some pictures or even a movie. I will look at my old stuff.
I know we shot videos of some of the wilder roads.