On Tuesday, February 27, 2018 at 11:58:41 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 19:37:57 -0800 (PST), Its Me
wrote:

On Tuesday, February 27, 2018 at 9:13:10 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Wed, 28 Feb 2018 01:37:19 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:


Our problem is we are in a valley. I am about 140’ above the valley
floor, but still the hills limit a lot of signals.

I am not sure why OTA sucks so bad here. OI am 30 miles from the
towers and it is flat ground. Looking down the line on Google I don't
even see any big buildings, just trees. I do have one big live oak
right here. The antenna is 25 feet off the ground and I am afraid to
stick a lightning rod up much higher.

I am running this, with an amp
http://www.newark.com/stellar-labs/30-2440/vhf-uhf-hdtv-60-mile-fringe-yagi/dp/88W2140?st=UHF%20antenna

How long is the cable coming down from the antenna, and what kind of cable? You get a lot of loss in that cable.

It is the RG6 that the satellite company uses. Originally I had a run
of fresh RG6 I got from Comcast (I have a spool from my neighbor) and
I thought that might be bad. When I sent one of my sat boxes back I
switched over to that cable. No change. The amp is right up next to
the antenna. Without the amp it really sux.
I understand 300 ohm foam twinlead is probably the best but that is
hard to come by and the antenna is set up for coax, as is the TV.

RG6 is the good stuff, at least for TVs. The twinlead would be better, but it's such a pain to install properly with all the standoffs, etc. Tape it to a metal mast and you're losing it's advantage. Sounds like you're just in a dead spot.