On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 09:35:32 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/26/2018 9:23 AM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 09:06:01 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/26/2018 8:55 AM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 08:31:32 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/26/2018 8:16 AM, John H. wrote:

I am not surprised at the stance of the teachers' unions when it comes to arming teachers. It's an
anti-Trump stance, and I'd expect nothing more.

I am surprised at the number of teachers being quoted who use 'too many responsibilities already' as
a reason for not arming teachers. It's true that teachers have a load of responsibilities. But, when
the shooting starts only one takes precedence - protecting kids. I don't think any unwilling teacher
would be asked to carry a gun. And, the simple act of carrying a gun does not add significantly to
the other duties of a teacher.


Trump's proposal calls only for teachers who volunteer to be trained and
armed. It's certainly not mandatory.

Not as well reported is that hundreds of teachers have responded to a
gun course instructor in Ohio who offered his course free to teachers.
He initially planned on about 50 respondents but last I heard now has
over 300 who want to attend.

Even NPR and CNN have quietly reported that many teachers are in favor
of being trained and armed.



If the 'anti-Trump' politics were taken out of the equation, I think we'd see a lot more approval of
the idea. I am surprised that NBC and, I'll take your word for it, CNN are reporting anything
positive about it.

The idea that carrying would overload a teacher with too many responsibilities already is just
bull****.


CNN:

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/24/us/armed-teachers-states-trnd/index.html

NPR:

https://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2017/06/25/534230962/colorado-teachers-get-gun-training-as-first-responders


And, oh my gosh, a teacher's gun accidentally fired in a restroom back in 2014!

And comments like this from the NPR article, are simply stupid: ""I think all teachers would prefer
to be given the tools and resources to help our students, as opposed to being forced to shoot
them..."

It's that stupidity that the liberal news tends to quote. More bull****.



What struck me was that both articles gloss over (in their editorial
comments) the fact that teachers against being armed is not universal.
Some *want* to be armed. Don't they have the same rights?


They are probably those who think for themselves and aren't 'union lemmings'.

Another, from one who gets hugged by her kids, "To have these little hands touching that gun," she
says, "I just don't see how that would mix well with school."

**And one who thinks for herself:**

One teacher at the training says she just positions the gun so it doesn't interfere with students'
hugs. We aren't using her name after her district asked to protect her privacy.

"My wardrobe has changed a little bit. I've found what conceals well, what doesn't, what's
comfortable."

She's carried a concealed weapon into her classroom for more than two years. She says the question
of being able to shoot and kill someone she knows has crossed her mind. She calls it her absolute
worst nightmare. "I do understand that. And can I desensitize myself and say, 'Yes I will handle
this correctly?' I hope I can never answer that question for you."

She says carrying a gun is worth it to protect her 20 students.