On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 18:55:14 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 2/15/18 6:07 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 15:26:57 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 2/15/18 2:35 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 09:21:42 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


10:51 AMKeyser Soze
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That's because you are an asshole, W'hine. Every plastic bottle, every
empty can, every piece of scrap, is picked up, put into trash bags, and
taken to the dump. We separate out the plastic bottles and cans. I'd bet
we cause less pollution than those marine diesels of yours do, since
they are well-known for dumping out a large quantity of toxic gases and
solid substances.
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—— doesn’t your “boat” have twin Volvo diesels?

The boat who is pollution less cast the first stone...

These 3 star 4 strokes are pretty close.

Some of those older diesels are real pollution hawgs.

So were all of the old 2 strokes. I have been running 3 star motors
for 16 years and I am not sure I ever saw a sheen on the water from
either of them unless I just did not wash it down well after
maintenance and I had some oil on the foot. I usually spray it down
good with green soap wipe everything with a rag and hose it off. No
sheen ;-)
I will say Mercury has a better design on the oiling system than
Yamaha. If you let a Merc sit for a while, the oil filter drains and
does not drip. The Yamaha dumps almost a filter's worth of oil into
the lower cowl. You really need to stuff a big terry cloth rag under
it. Those Sam's "Bar Mops" are the perfect size.
This is strange to me since the Merc 60 and my F70 use the same block
and filter.


Most of those old tech 2 stroke outboards are dead and buried,

Actually that is far from true. If you hang out on real boat groups
you will find there are lots of hard core 2 stroke people who would
never consider a 4 stroke. That is really when you get to the smaller
sizes where a 2 stroke is a "one man carry" motor and you need a
wheeled cart to handle a comparable 4 stroke.
For a 15hp it is ~80-85 pounds for the 2 stroke and well 125 for a 4
stroke. (wet)
Even in larger sizes the 3 cylinder Yamaha/Mercury/Mariners still have
a huge following (75-90 HP) and the ox66 may be one of the most
popular Yamahas of all time. There are 3 running regularly in my
neighborhood. They may smoke and not idle worth a **** but they run
80-90% of WOT all day long. Mortal man also has a chance of fixing one
on the water with a few hand tools.
All that said, I am not in that crowd. Fuel injection and a computer
does not scare me. I would rather not have a motor that is "easy to
fix" I would rather have one that doesn't break, even if I am giving
up a 75 pound weight penalty.