On Sun, 28 Jan 2018 09:37:24 -0500, Keyser Soze
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On 1/28/18 7:04 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/28/2018 12:34 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jan 2018 20:52:40 -0500, Keyser Söze
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On Sat, 27 Jan 2018 20:25:56 -0500, Keyser Söze
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On 27 Jan 2018 21:52:45 GMT, Keyser Soze wrote:

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On Sat, 27 Jan 2018 18:35:55 -0000 (UTC), Bill
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Tim wrote:
On Saturday, January 27, 2018 at 2:09:35 AM UTC-6,
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On Fri, 26 Jan 2018 13:46:24 -0800 (PST), Tim

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On Fri, 26 Jan 2018 11:55:11 -0800 (PST), Tim

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Both, one literally, the other figuratively but there is no
comparison
in what they accomplished. Kennedy's main claim to fame was
****ing
Marilyn Monroe and getting shot.

...

Jack was taken out way too early. Shame too. I look back at
history and
thought he could have done some great things.Â* One thing
about him was
he could sure deliver a great speech...

I am not as convinced. He was an arrogant jerk who almost
destroyed
the world for no real reason and his brother shredded the
constitution. Other than that I suppose he did look good on TV.

you may be right. I was 7 yrs old when he was assassinated.
I'm looking
far into retrospect.


Camelot.Â*Â* Since he really screwed the pooch in his short time as
President, but looked good, talked well, had a nice looking
wife (who he
played around on, and she to do the same playing around.Â* Who
the press
seemed to overlook) and killed.Â*Â* The presidency was glossed up.

There was a very good chance that he was going to lose the 64
election. That is why he was in Dallas in the first place,
trying to
get the solid southern democrat vote back.


Lose to who?

We might have actually seen Nixon again but Goldwater had a much
better chance against a live JFK than LBJ over the body of a dead
president.
By September of 63 K's approval ratings had fallen to the lowest in
his presidency and there was not even anyone from the GOP
reminding us
how bad things were going. I was in DC every day at that time 2
blocks
from his house. The blood was in the water.


Lose to who?

Goldwater? Nixon? Romney?, that's if he gets past the LBJ primary
challenge. Like I said, the blood was in the water. Maybe the news
didn't get to Connecticut. They were too busy talking about Jackie's
new hat.


None of them had a chance in 1964. Nixon lost and it was too soon to run
again. Goldwater was too for out there. Romney? Nah. And I was living in
Kansas.

Ah yes, The political nerve center of the nation ... Kansas. That is
almost like being in DC going to a private school with the kids of
politically connected parents.
Kennedy was in trouble. People were basically starting to ask "We see
the beefcake butÂ* where is the beef"?
The democrats were disillusioned and wondering if they did not just
have the ticket flipped.
JFK had a filibuster proof senate (65 votes) and a big majority in the
house and yet they were not seeing much coming out of it. The buzz was
Johnson might have taken a run at JFK in 64. To start with, he knew
how sick Kennedy really was. Lots of people knew he was not right but
the news covered it up ... just like FDR. Johnson was not that nice.


In many ways Trump reminds me of LBJ, not so much in agenda issues but
in personalities.Â* Both are/were bullies.



LBJ understood government and the legislative process, and among other
things, got the Civil Rights bill passed. Trump is a pig with no
governmental or legislative talents, and would rescind what is left of
the Civil Rights bill, if he could. Johnson has many great
accomplishments and a colossal failure. Trump transferred more of the
nation's wealth to the rich.

How much of that Vietnam budget went to the rich? (Dow, Dupont,
General Dynamics, Boeing, Raytheon) We understand it was the poor who
were dying. Rich kids who served, were in the rear with the gear or
they just dodged the draft altogether.