On 1/20/2018 10:01 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/20/18 1:41 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/19/2018 9:04 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/19/18 8:27 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Leaked reports of today's last minute Trump/Schumer meeting indicate
that rather than trying to come to a compromise to avoid a shut
down, Schumer instead delivered a laundry list of additional items
that he wants included in addition to the Dem's DACA demands.

Basically he want's a "parity" budget, addressing all kinds of
budget issues that haven't even been discussed or negotiated yet.


In the history of the United States, there has never been a
government shutdown because of funding while the same party is in
control of the House, the Senate, and the Presidency.

If you are looking for someone to blame, blame Trump and his
incompetency.


Nope.Â* This one is squarely on the Democrats and in particular their
Senate leader Schumer.Â* You can try to spin it all you want but even
the NYTimes has stated that the Democrats blocked passage of the budget.



You've really swallowed the Trump pill. Once again, your party controls
the White House, the House, and the Senate. It would have been a
no-brainer for them to get behind and pass DACA that TRUMP alone killed
last September, and to extend CHIP. Schumer offered funding for the wall
and more bucks for the military, but Trump turned him down.

The Dems do not trust Trump to negotiate in good faith and work hard to
make his word mean something with his party in Congress. Why should the
Dems trust Trump to deliver DACA or CHIP? Answer? No reason at all.

It's the Trump Shutdown. Spin as you may.




DACA has nothing to do with passing a budget. DACA is a separate,
legislative issue.

60 votes Harry. 60 votes in the Senate.

Got a kick that the newly hatched Democratic Senator from Alabama, Doug
Jones, voted *for* moving forward on the budget bill vote. One of 6
Dems, if I counted correctly. Probably means Jones hasn't been there
long enough to become programmed by the likes of Schumer.