On 12/17/2017 2:03 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/17/17 1:32 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/17/2017 12:39 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/17/17 12:09 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 05:15:03 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

It's interesting that of the 35 major denominations of Christianity in
the United States you focus on one of the smallest ...evangelical ...
with your complaints about shoving religion down your throat.Â* Of the
others, I don't know of any that purposely go out and try to convert
anyone.Â* Maybe there are a few but I've never heard of it or
experienced
it.

https://undergod.procon.org/view.background-resource.php?resourceID=000087


Harry thinks any thing remotte;y related to religion is "ramming Jesus
down his throat".
I bet he thinks this is a great policy
https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=10278



I may laugh at beliefs based on speculation and superstition and
hypocrisy, but it doesn't bother me until or unless it intrudes into
public policy, is supported by tax dollars, influences laws, et
cetera. I don't give a ****, really, what "religious folk" practice
in their churches, religious schools, homes, et cetera. I just wish
they'd keep it in those venues.


"One Nation, under God ...."

Probably the worst mistake of the Eisenhower presidency. And sadly
funny. After all, with no proof of the existence of any god, it might
have been termed, one nation under Zeus or one nation under Ra, or some
Egyptian stone god. And if there were a god, how would a mere mortal
know whether his or her nation were under it?

I think the pledge as modified in the Eisenhower presidency violates the
Establishment Clause.


I got curious so I did some reading. Seems that although the majority
of states require a time be allocated for reciting the Pledge of
Allegiance in public schools, most also make it optional.
A few states have no statutes on it at all and about three that I found
do not have a formal "opt out" clause in their current statues.
Surprisingly, Massachusetts is one of them.

Bottom line is that in almost all cases it is voluntary. The 3 or 4
with no formal opt-out clause don't enforce it as a requirement. So, if
it bothers the student or the student's parents, just don't participate.