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On 12/1/2017 10:50 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 1 Dec 2017 08:33:03 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

The "not guilty" verdicts of Jose Ines Garcia Zarate for 1st or 2nd
degree murder and involuntary manslaughter by the jury in San Fransisco
certainly has frustrated many. The judge charged the jury that they
could *not* consider his illegal immigrant status, the fact that he was
deported 6 times but returned and that he had multiple felony
convictions in their deliberations.

I think the family of Kathryn Steinle (who he shot and killed) should
file a civil lawsuit for "unlawful death", but not against Zarate. He
has nothing to recover.

The suit should be brought against the city of San Fransisco and the
state of California for at least a billion dollars. I think they should
charge the city and state for causing the unlawful death by maintaining
a "Sanctuary" status and releasing a convicted felon and illegal
immigrant back into the population in direct defiance of federal ICE
demands that he be held for pickup and deportation.

In a civil action the bar is "preponderance of evidence", not "beyond
any reasonable doubt".


They also only need a majority of jurors and the rules of evidence are
a lot looser. The problem is San Francisco may be as broke as this
murdering mo fo.
BTW NBC was reporting that this was a mistrial not an acquittal but it
does not shock me when they get it wrong.
I really find it surprising that the federal prosecutors can't find a
single thing to charge this guy with. Where did he get the gun? Isn't
it a federal violation for a felon to get a gun? Add up as many
federal charges as they can get, lock his ass up for a while then
deport him from Kansas or wherever he was "residing" at the time.
The cities may be able to provide sanctuary from ICE (although I am
not sure why) but they surely can't provide sanctuary from a federal
prosecutor with criminal charges.
If they had a sharp pencil they might be able to rack up a bunch of 10
year violations in gun charges alone ... but nobody actually enforces
the laws we have on guns.



I was watching as the verdicts were announced. I heard nothing about a
miss trial or acquittal. It was announced that the jury found him not
guilty of murder 1 or 2 and of involuntary manslaughter. He was found
guilty of felony possession of a firearm.

Last I heard prosecution was considering federal charges.

What worked in his favor in the trial is that his illegal alien status,
his history of deportations and his felony convictions were not allowed
by the judge to be introduced or considered by the jury. That left the
whole thing based on circumstantial evidence with no witness and no
apparent motive. That adds up to "reasonable doubt".