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Danny Taddei
 
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Jonathan Ganz wrote:
What is with you? Why were in Nicaragua? Are you a member
of the local secret police? Perhaps you should be a bit more
careful about where you sail.


I was bringing my boat to Miami from Los Angeles and found my sails in
need of repair when unexpected 70 knot winds jumped up from 4-7 knots
and took out my mainsail.


Why were you so close to obvious scumbag rafters? How could
they possibly try to "get on your boat"??

When you find men at peril while at sea it is internationally known to
sailors that you must stop to help. I was rendering services of life
jackets and water while trying to keep them off of my boat thereby
forcing me to sail them back to their country. The US will not allow US
flag ships to enter US ports with illegal immigrants and the boats with
those people will be forced back to the country of the people on board.
that would cause hell, trust me. The right thing and only thing to do is
control the situation before life threatening situations occur. The best
way I have found is to use a guard tactic to keep them off the boat and
call the coast guard. That is the recommended way by the USCG by the way
and not something I decided. I was about 10 miles west of Gun Cay when I
came across the 20. I have seen others but the situation was never as
desperate.


Why not just sail or motor
away? You dump them some water and move away. Only an idiot
or a fool would get close to desperate people on the high seas


You are wrong, suggesting illegal actions and are not suggesting
seamanship. Maybe you are just unaware that if you find someone at sea
in peril that it is your legal duty to help. It is.
..

Sounds to me like you have extremely bad karma or are really
stupid or foodhardy to put yourself in these "dozen" incident
situations.

Perhaps I just happen to be someone with many 10's of thousands of sea
miles along coastal routes. I am.


Perhaps you should re-evaluate. I've sailed in a lot
of places, and none of them waranted caring firearms. Only a
fool would do it. Most places would confiscate them at a
minimum.


have no idea where you have sailed but that is not the custom. If you
enter a port where firearms are restricted, there are 2 practiced
procedures. The first and most common is to put an official tape over
the gun locker not to be broken until the ship sets sail from the port.
The lessor used method is to check your guns with the port captain to
retake them upon checking out of the country. There is no other way to
deal with it and that is law under the treaty of sea fairing nations 1978.


In any case, this is an old, stupid argument. It's more religion
than anything else. Keep your f*cking guns and keep the f*ck
away from me. You're bad news.


You are uneducated, inexperienced and rude as well as a preacher of
foolishness. I doubt we will ever cross paths since mine are obviously
off the dock.


"Danny Taddei" wrote in message
...

What is with you people. You have obviously never been out of a city
limit. Reactionary and paranoid? How about realistic and knowledgeable.
How about having 5 people try to board my boat in Nicaragua and having
to protect my wife who happens to be very pretty and their target? How
about having ot keep the peace until the coast guard came when 20 cuban
rafters were trying to get on my boat after drifting for about 2 weeks?
-and if you have never seen people that have had no water for 2 weeks
don't ever start to talk to me about that! How about over a dozen
incidents that either friends of mine have had or I have had that would
have meant death if I had not been armed.... You people are just so
inexperienced in the real world that you reek from it.

Jonathan Ganz wrote:

Spoken like a true idiot. Keep your guns, and stay away from
me. I'm not paranoid, I've never had any trouble, and I'm not
a "liberal." You, however, are a reactionary, paraniod fool.
Fortunately, people like you implode on their own.

Have a nice day.

"Danny Taddei" wrote in message
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Spoken like a true liberal! Just what do you think a bad guy is going to
do after he takes your stuff? Is he going to say thanks and tell you
that is has been nice meeting you and ask you to please don't tell
anyone? In fact, guns have stopped the bad guys. I have stopped the bad
guys on more occasions then one. I have absolutely no problem with that
and actually feel really good about helping to rid the world of slime
that would have only hurt another person next. the constables were very
happy too. You can take your bend over and take it in the butt attitude
and go back to your fearful cave. I prefer to take care of myself and
family before worrying about offending the weak cry babies of the world.
The only thing foolish about having a gun on board is if you decided not
to use it should the need rise!


Jonathan Ganz wrote:


Carrying guns on a boat is a foolish and dangerous thing to
do. You're not going to be able to stop the really bad guys
with your puny little weapons. You're just inviting people to
shoot back. Let them take your crap and then get some more.

"Danny Taddei" wrote in message
...



this has been a truly fun thread to read but if you want a practical
answer to your question you will likely have to detail the question to

a

specific area.

Im the bahamas and miami you won't have an eye batted at you for
carrying guns of just about any kind. People there know that if you

are

out and something happens you need to be able to take care of

yourself.

I was stopped mid gulf stream but the uscg. they asked why I had a 357
and I said to shot anyone that got on board. They asked why I had a
shotgun and I said to stop anyone trying to get on board. they asked

why

I was carrying a SKS10 assault rifle and I said to shot anyone I
needed to hit that was out of range of my shotgun and they said - OK.

In Golfito Costa Rica the port captain asked if I had any guns. I told
him no and then he gave me a lecture about why I should and trying to
make me go out and by one with his help.

In California I had a gun on board and someone saw it. Within 20

minutes

I had local police and the harbour patrol on my boat illegally to

search

it. I had to radio the uscg to have them intervene.

it just depends on the area you are in to know how people will react

to

you having guns on board. Just remember that it is a lot easier to be
judged by 12 then it is to get carried by 6.

Vito wrote:



Do y'all mount those new 25mm rapid fire guns or will a "Ma Duece" or
simply a .30 cal do?

Seriously, what are the legal and technical ramifications of firearms

on


yachts?

TIA
Vito


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lead the way.
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