On Sun, 8 Oct 2017 20:33:09 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 10/8/2017 7:16 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/8/17 6:19 PM, wrote:

The difference is the weight of the bow. In a center console the wave
will pop the bow up. In a bow rider the extra weight up front, even
without 2 fat people, will hold it down.
Once you get a big enough gulp of water in there the scuppers go under
and it is a self sinker.


I doubt it. This is basically the same hull I had on my 25' Parker, and
it rode pretty high in the bow, even though there was more weight up
there than the bow rider in question. Obviously a cabin boat will take
on less water, but I don't see this bowrider as problematical for near
offshore boating.


"High in the bow" is meaningless in some conditions. It's still very
possible to get between a couple of large waves that will bury the bow
of that Parker and certainly that of a Bayliner. I've been on a
destroyer that buried it's bow in waves time after time when in
seriously rough seas. From the bridge it looked like a submarine
starting a dive.

In my mind it's how easily and quickly the boat will drain excessive
water taken over the bow. A cabin covering the bow is best because it
allows the least amount of water to get in the boat in the first place.
A center console I think is next best because there is less of a barrier
on the deck for the water to reach the scuppers. A bow rider, in my
opinion, is for flat water or near flat water boating because it's
design usually results in people sitting in the bow rather than back in
the cockpit or around the helm station, exacerbating the potential for
taking a "greenie" over the bow or worse yet, as Greg mentioned, burying
the bow in a wave.




Offshore is usually not as bad as the standing waves at the mouth of
an inlet. They are very short period and can get quite high with an
outgoing tide hitting a stiff sea breeze. They also come up suddenly
if you are not watching out for them.