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On Thu, 05 Oct 2017 09:54:16 -0400, John H
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On Thu, 5 Oct 2017 06:40:33 -0500, Boating All Out wrote:

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On Wed, 4 Oct 2017 10:53:45 -0700 (PDT), Tim
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11:05 AMBoating All Out
Excerpt from
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/10/senators-
strategy-to-combat-gun-violence-get-small.html

"Leading the charge on Tuesday was South Dakota senator John
Thune, who said in an interview with NBC News that, given
the fact that there?s no way to stop a mass shooting from
happening in an ?open society,? citizens? best hope to avoid
being violently killed is to ? duck. ?I think people are
going to have to take steps in their own lives to take
precautions to protect themselves. And in situations like
that, you know, try to stay safe. As somebody said ? get
small.?

It was the most depressing Republican response to the
shooting until slightly later in the afternoon, when
Oklahoma senator James Inhofe (famous for holding up a
snowball to disprove climate change) pinned the
responsibility for Sunday night?s massacre on sanctuary
cities."

Hahahaha. What the hell is he talking about?
One round from a bazooka could have taken out the shooter.
The obvious solution is to legalize bazooka open-carry.
Then the crowd would have handled it.
The problem is the law prevents bazooka open-carry.
What are our politicians thinking?
...
What are they thinking? I believe they're not. Anyhow his statement makes about as much sense as blowing a shotgun in the air off your balcony...
I agree Biden was just being stupid and the "bazooka" thing is pretty
stupid too. They are not that accurate to start with, unless you are
talking about a modern laser guided anti tank weapon. Then there is
the collateral damage problem.
Look up M72 LAW. Replace the word "bazooka" with whatever
version of LAW is appropriate, and legalize them for open
carry. Biden is a hell of a lot closer to my reality than
that asshole Thune telling me to "get small."
Collateral damage?
Less than 58 dead concert goers I'd bet. One round just
close would take the perp out. Price of Freedom.
Get some Army/Marine LAWS trainers to train open carry
applicants down at the local range.
There would be no shortage of applicants. Open carry ticket
for LAWS and toting one at a concert - how cool is that?
What's not to like about it?
Better than carrying a tricked out boom box.

If we really thought this would be a thing, the answer would have been
SWAT snipers covering the buildings from other buildings. If Trump had
been there, the snipers would have been there. (ever since Dallas)
It would have stopped in about 20-30 seconds if there was anyone
qualified to shoot back at that guy.
Couple hundred rounds could land on the Presidential convoy
before then.
Besides, too expensive for widespread use. Full auto fire
raining down from high elevation has changed the game for
the Secret Service.
They might be considering LAWS teams for the Presidential
detail.
You "staying small?"


Effective range for a LAW is about 250 meters (with a *lot* of practice), and that's not shooting up
32 floors. I think I saw the range for the shooter in Vegas was about 600 yards.
BAO has just watched too many Dirty Harry movies. He also does not
understand that these are shaped charges that basically poke a hole in
something. It is not going to blast out several rooms.

I have also heard the range was more like 300 yards. When you look at
the ballistics of the 5.56 (.223) you see that out beyond around 300
yards the bullet starts dropping pretty fast. Unless he was shooting
tracers and walking the rounds in it is unlikely they would have been
that effective. I read one person saying 1000 yards and that would
have required holding 50-60 feet high.
This was a fat retired clerk, not Chris Kyle.

I would guess higher than that for a .223. A .338 Lapua is about 16
feet and a 6.5 Creedmoor is about 35 feet. I'm not sure how his
elevation factored into that. No doubt he was lobbing them into the crowd.