On Wed, 4 Oct 2017 12:55:12 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 10/4/2017 10:15 AM, John H wrote:
On Tue, 3 Oct 2017 20:31:49 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 10/3/2017 8:13 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 3 Oct 2017 17:09:18 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 10/3/2017 12:14 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 3 Oct 2017 09:34:33 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


I agree but if a universal background check system could stop even *one*
of these events from happening, it would be worth it. A background
check is really not an inconvenience.

It is certainly not a problem for people at a dealer in the city but a
rancher in Montana might disagree if he just wants to give his son an
old gun.


I could accept and understand exceptions for in-family "gifts".

How about selling it to your neighbor?



Nope.

I don't know how it works in other states but here in MA a background
check is done when you apply for a permit. Once issued, it is good for
six years after which you apply for a renewal and a check is done again.

During the time you hold the permit a quick state check (via phone or
computer) is done by the FFL dealer whenever you purchase a firearm to
ensure the permit is still in good standing and has not been revoked for
any reason. Private sales may be made to other MA residents by going
on-line, providing both his and your permit numbers, the firearm type
and serial number and current addresses. If no issues, you are done and
the sale is legal.


What kind of permit are you speaking of. Can individuals make private sales without involving an FFL
holder, simply be going online and inputting the numbers?



In MA it's called a Class "A" Concealed Carry Permit. The Class A
permit allows you to own just about anything except a machine gun. As
I've mentioned before, it allows me to own high capacity mags as well.
Only problem is ... it's illegal buy one, transport one into the state
or have it shipped. But, I can own one. :-)

MA also had a Class "B" permit at the time I got my Class "A". It
didn't allow concealed carry and was basically for home defense and
transport to a shooting range only.

Then, there is a long gun permit for rifles and shotguns. These permits
are "shall issue" permits rather than "may issue" for the Class A and B
but subject also to a background check.

They even have permits for mace and pepper spray.

Yes, individuals can make private sales but only to another resident of
MA. A FFL is not required. The buyer must have a current permit (number
must be provided) for the type of firearm to be sold and the serial
number, make and model is required. Seller's info is also required.
You can fill out the form online and submit it. If no problem, a
receipt is issued.

I haven't sold (or purchased) a firearm in several years, so the private
sale rules may have changed or even been done away with. I have a
couple of handguns I'll probably never use again but I think I'll just
take them back to the FFL dealer and see what he'll give me for them.


I just looked at the requirements put out by the Cambridge, MA, police department. I'm surprised
that the ACLU, NAACP, Jesse Jackson, and all the liberals who complain about voter ID requirements
being 'racist' don't jump all over the requirements to get a LTC permit.

It would be interesting to see a racial breakout of how the LTC's are distributed in the state.